The Burkha Ban in France is Draconian

My opinion piece has been published in the Times:

I grew up in a liberal household in the Middle East where religious practice was never forced on me. But when I was 17 I made the choice to wear the hijab (headscarf), in the belief that this was a religious obligation and symbol of modesty. At times, I even wore the niqab, a veil of thin chiffon cloth that covers the face.

I knew that the niqab wasn’t a religious obligation, unlike the hijab, but I wore it in markets and malls — any place where I wanted to be hidden from the prying eyes of men. Although it was restrictive — it’s difficult to manoeuvre in busy shops, to eat or cross the road — that didn’t bother me. When I wore it, I felt comfortable knowing that my face would not be known, that I would not be leered at by men. And I certainly did not feel out of place. Many women around me wore it, too, not because it was a legal requirement or because of family pressure, but out of choice.

When I moved to Britain to go to university, I came to realise that neither the hijab nor the niqab is necessary for a woman to be religious or modest, which I was so eager to feel at the age of 17. Faith comes from within, not from outer appearances. I no longer believe the hijab is a religious requirement — and I now see the niqab as a symbol of oppression and misogyny, which is why I would never wear it again.

But I would have been outraged to be told that, by force of law, I could not wear it. The French National Assembly made a terrible mistake yesterday by voting to ban the niqab. It is not the business of governments to tell women who choose to wear the veil that they are oppressing themselves. And it is certainly not a government’s place to arbitrate in theological debates as to what is or isn’t a religious requirement.

What governments do have a right to do, however, is ban any form of face covering in certain public buildings — schools and hospitals, for example — if it is not conducive to the public good. Schoolchildren should be able to see their teacher’s face, and doctors should be able to look at their patients. Legislating for such restrictions is certainly not Islamophobic. How could it be when countries such as Egypt, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates have banned the niqab in certain workplaces or while driving?

But a total ban is plain draconian. Imagine it, women getting arrested and fined for not wearing the right garment. Can French lawmakers not see the irony: taking away the right of women to choose in the name of women’s rights? Women should make their own decision about the niqab, just as I did, without being patronised or punished.

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  1. Abu Faris
    Posted July 14, 2010 at 1:13 PM | Permalink

    “What governments do have a right to do, however, is ban any form of face covering in certain public buildings — schools and hospitals, for example — if it is not conducive to the public good.”

    This is exactly the content and intent of the French legislation (which has yet to go to the Senate, incidentally). The ban is recommended for public services. It explicitly excludes streets, shopping centres, parks and other public spaces.

    At no point has the French National Assembly attempted to intervene in the religious questions associated with the niqab. Indeed, this would be considered not within its remit due to the strict separation of state and religion under the French constitution.

    Leaders of all the mainstream Muslim organisations in France have expressed satisfaction with the recommendations of the parliamentary commission tasked with investigating this matter, which reported to the National Assembly.

    For a useful overview, see this article (also in the Times):

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7003246.ece

  2. Abu Faris
    Posted July 14, 2010 at 1:22 PM | Permalink

    Yes, I am aware that the Times article I link is from January. And?

  3. Yeasin
    Posted July 15, 2010 at 12:06 AM | Permalink

    ‘When I moved to Britain to go to university, I came to realise that neither the hijab nor the niqab is necessary for a woman to be religious or modest, which I was so eager to feel at the age of 17. ‘ Why don’t you tell the complete story Ms Houriya Ahmed…you didn’t discard the hijab because its not obligatory, you know fully well that it is, its because it conflicted with your new found freedom, lifestyle and no doubt desire to paaaaaaaaaaarty! hehehehehehehehehehe lets booooogy.

    Hijab: Elegance in Modesty

    All praise is due to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds, the Most Merciful, the Beneficent, and the Master of the Day of Judgment. O Allah, Grant Your Peace and Blessing upon Your slave and Messenger Muhammad, his family and upon all of his companions.

    Particular consideration has been given by Islam to women’s affairs. Such heed is intended to protect her chastity, to honor her and to secure her position in life. What is sometimes considered a “circumscription” placed upon her regarding her dress and display of her beauty and ornaments is not in fact a restriction on her being, rights or freedoms, but a protection for her and a recognition of her uniqueness.

    Significantly, the decision to wear this noble garment must be an individual and independent resolution, though friendly nurture, persuasion and discussion by loved ones is understandable, coercion is not.

    With full references from the Qur’an and authentic narrations of the Prophet (pbuh), the article will discuss the Islamic basis of the Hijab, and bring glad tidings promised by Allah (swt) to women who choose to observe this special bond between them and the Divine. It will also highlight the hazards and vulnerabilities of displaying the physical ornaments, grace and beauty endowed upon womankind.

    Today more and more Muslim women are reclaiming thier identity and modesty by embracing the wearing of Hijab, at a time when this chaste attire is often ridiculed and viewed as some type of confinement. A Muslim women should face such trials and challanges with courage and dignity, safe in the knowledge that she fulfils this obligation for God’s pleasure alone and that the path of the Prophets entails perserverance and patience. Allah (swt) knows our intentions and He is Sufficient for Us and He is the Best Guardian.

    The Virtues of Hijab

    (1) An Act of Obedience

    The Hijab is an act of obedience to Allah (swt) and to His Messenger Muhammad (pbuh). He (swt) says:

    “It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have an option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, has indeed strayed in a plain error.” [Al Qur'an 33:36]

    Allah (swt) also says:

    “But no by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you Muhammad (pbuh) a judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.” [Al Qur'an 4:65]

    Indeed, Allah (swt) ordered that women must put on the Hijab. He (swt) says:

    “And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except what must (ordinarily) appear thereof, that they should draw their veils over their Juyubihinna.” [Al Qur'an 24:31].

    “O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the
    believers to draw their cloaks (veils) over their bodies (when outdoors). That is most convenient that they should be known and not molested.” [Al Qur'an 33:59]

    “Ayesha (ra) reported that Asmaa the daughter of Abu Bakr (ra) came to the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: ‘O Asmaa! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this.’ He pointed to the face and hands.” [Abu Dawood]

    The Hijab is not something cultural, it is Allah’s command. Its conditions are not Arabian, Egyptian, Pakistani, Somali, black or white American, etc. Its conditions are specified in the Qur’an and Sunnah to provide a protection and safeguarding of women. No one is better informed to what is good for men and women more so than their Creator, Allah (swt). His laws are Wise as it is the case with all of His actions.

    We can not deny the harrassment of women that exists in societies. The question is, why does it occur? The answer begins to shape up when we think about the purpose behind creation. Allah(swt) created us for the single purpose of worshipping Him alone. He detailed all the ways to fulfill this purpose in the Last Revelation to all mankind, the Qur’an.

    In it we can find how women and men can safeguard their dignity, honor, and morality. The worship of Allah (swt) is manifested in the following orders. Allah (swt) orders that men and women must avoid all avenues that lead to dissolute and indulgent ways of living. The Hijab is one such command. It is an honor and protection for women as well as a true freedom for her body from the hands and eyes of aggressors or from the unwelcome gaze.

    (2) The Hijab is Iffah (modesty)

    Allah (swt) made the adherence to the Hijab a manifestation for chastity and modesty:

    “O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the
    believers to draw their cloaks (veils) over their bodies (when outdoors). That is most convenient that they should be known and not molested.” [Al Qur'an 33: 59]

    In the above Ayah (verse) there is an evidence that the recognition of the apparent beauty of the woman is harmful to her. When the cause of attraction ends, the restriction is removed. This is illustrated in the case of elderly women who may have lost most aspects of attraction. Allah (swt) made it permissible for them to lay aside their outer garments reminding, however, that it is still better for them to keep their modesty:

    “And as for women past child-bearing who do not expect wed-lock, it is no sin for them if they discard their (outer) in such a way as not to show their adornment; but it is best to be modest and Allah knows and sees all things provided they do not make a display of their beauty; but it is best to be modest and Allah knows and sees all things.” [Al Qur'an 24:60]

    (3) The Hijab is Tahra (purity)

    Allah (swt) has shown us the Hikma (wisdom) behind the legislation of the Hijab:

    “And when you ask them (the Prophet’s wives) for anything you want, ask them from behind a screen, that is purer for your hearts and their hearts.” [Al Qur'an 33:53]

    The Hijab makes for greater purity for the hearts of believing men and women because it screens against the desire of the self and heart. Without the Hijab, the heart may or may not desire. That is why the heart is more pure when the sight is blocked (by Hijab) and thus fitna (impiety) is prevented. The Hijab acts as a barrier for both men and women, against undesired gazes and ill thoughts.

    (4) The Hijab is a Sheild

    The Prophet (pbuh) stated:

    “Allah, Most High, is Ha’yeii, Sit’teer, He loves Haya’ (Bashfulness) and Sitr (Shielding; Covering)”. [An-Nissa'ee & Ahmed]

    The Prophet (pbuh) also said:

    “Any woman who takes off her clothes in other than her husband’s home (to show off for unlawful purposes). has broken Allah’s shield upon her” [Abu Dawoud & At-Tirmidhi]

    (5) The Hijab is Taqwah (Righteousness)

    Allah (swt) says:

    “O Children of Adam! We have bestowed raiment upon you to cover yourselves (screen your private parts,etc.) and as an adornment. But the raiment of righteousness, that is better.” [Al Qur'an 7:26]

    Some forms of dress worn by woman today can be revealing and exhibitionist in nature and do not qualify as a shield of the woman’s body. To the believing women, however, the purpose is to safeguard their bodies and cover their beauty as a manifestation of the order of Allah. It is an act of Taqwah (righteousness).

    (6) The Hijab is Emaan (Faith)

    A’isha (ra) the wife of the Prophet (pbuh) and mother of the believers, addressed some women from the tribe of Banu Tameem who came visiting her and had light clothes on them: “If indeed you are believing women, then truly this is not the dress of the believing women, and if you are not believing women, then enjoy it.”[Reported in "Ma'alim As-Sunnan"]

    (7) The Hijab is Haya (Bashfulness)

    The Prophet (pbuh) said:

    “Each religion has a morality and the morality of Islam is haya’ (bashfulness).” [Related by Imam Malik]

    The Prophet (pbuh) also stated:

    “Bashfulness is from belief and belief is in Al-Jannah (Paradise).” [At-Tirmidhi]

    Bashfulness and belief are fully associated together if one is lifted the other follows suit.

    The Prophet said: “If you have no shame, then do as you please.” [Sahih Bukhari]

    Shame, the highest level being shameful in front of God from committing sins, is a key factor is avoiding sin, and this standard may also be used to judge whether or not an act is a sin. These sentiments of conscience and shame are a natural consequence to true belief and faith, and this is what Islam seeks to create within an individual, an Islamic conscience which guides us through life. This inner conscience is what tells the state of the heart of the individual, whether it is alive seeking the truth, or dead, filled with the desires of this worldly life. Lack of religiosity and indulging in sin causes a person to lose one’s conscience, and it can no longer be used as a source of guidance.

    (8) The Hijab is Geerah (Respect & Dignity)

    The Hijab fits the natural feeling of Gheerah which is intrinsic in the man who does not like people to look at his wife, sisters, mother or daughters. Gheerah is a driving emotion that drives a man to safeguard women who are related to him from strangers. The Muslim man has Gheerah for all women. Islam considers Gherrah an integral part of faith .The dignity of the wife or daughter or any other woman must be highly respected and defended.

    A wonderful illustration of this tenet can be drawn from the paternal conversation that took place between Muhammed Ali and his daughter Hana described in an antidote in her book ‘More than a Hero’. She says he sat her down on his lap and began to explain that everything precious and valuable in this world, has by God’s decree been concealed, conserved and sheltered deep in the earth, whether it is gold, diamonds, rubies or pearls and that they take, time, effort and exertion to attain. He also explained that if you were to have guests or visitors you would not leave your most sentimental and expensive personal items on display out in the open, you would ensure such things were secure and protected.

    This wise, gracious and legendary figure then told his daughter, that you are more precious, beloved and treasured to me than any worldly article and as such it is instinctual for me to desire your protection at all times whether you are far or near and that the clothing of Islam, the Hijab affords such safety and defence.

    Tabar’roj (Displaying Ones Charms)

    (1) Tabar’roj is a disobedience to Allah (swt) & His Messenger

    The one who disobeys Allah (swt) and his Messenger (pbuh) can only harm himself and cannot in any way harm Allah. The Messenger of Allah (swt) said:

    “All of my followers will enter Al-Jannah except those who refuse.” They said, “O Allah’s Messenger! Who will refuse? ” He said, “Whoever obeys me will enter Al-Jannah, and whoever disobeys me is the one who refuses (to enter it).” [Sahih Al-Bukhari]

    It is reported that Mu’awiyah (RAA) gave a sermon in Humss (Syria) and mentioned that the Prophet (pbuh) prohibited seven things and that he (pbuh) named Tabar’roj as one of them [Related by Imam Ahmed].

    Abdullah bin Mas’oud (RAA) reported that the Prophet (pbuh) “used to dislike ten kinds of behavior and he (Abdullah) mentioned amongst them: “Tabar’roj by means of displaying beautification in an improper place.” [An-Nissa'ee]

    Imam As-Siyouti, may Allah’s mercy be upon him said: “Tabar’roj by displaying beautification is showing off to strangers and this is disliked. This is the explanation of “an improper place.” It is not so if the beautification is done for the husband and family.

    (2) Tabar’roj is Nifaq (Hypocrisy)

    The Prophet (pbuh) said:

    “The best of your women is the affectionate, the fertile (in productivity), the propitious (favorable), the consultative if they fear Allah. The most iniquitous of your women are the Mutabar’rijat (those who do Tabar’roj), the Mutakhayelat (who strut/swagger), and they are the hypocrite ones.”

    To wear the clothes that show off the shapes of her her bodily features is demeaning to one’s self and Allah (swt) orders His slaves to stay away from sins that disgrace and demeane:

    “When they commit a Fahisha (evil) deed, going round the Ka’ba in naked state as in the times of Jahilyeeyah, every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse etc.), they say: ‘We found our fathers doing it and Allah has commanded us of it.’ Say: “Nay, Allah never commands of Fahisha. Do you say of Allah what you know not?” [Al Qur'an 7:28]

    It is Shaytan (Satan) who orders such sins. Allah (swt) says:

    “Shaytan threatens you with poverty and orders you to commit sins. “[Al Qur'an 2:268]

    The Mutabar’rigah is a sinful virus that spreads sins amongst society. Allah, the Most High, says:

    “Verily, those who like, that illegal sexual intercourse should be propagated among those who believe, they will have a painful torment in this world and in the Hereafter. And Allah knows and you know not.” [Al Qur'an 24:19]

    Tabar’roj is a leading cause for the spread of Zina (unlawful sexual intercourse).

    The story of Adam and his wife demonstrates how the enemy of God, Satan, was so covetous to incite them to show their private parts in order to spread evil and disgraceful sins. It also shows that the Tabar’roj of women is a primary goal for Shaytan to achieve. Allah (swt) says:

    “O children of Adam! We have bestowed raiment upon you to cover yourselves (screen your private parts etc.) and as an adornment. But the raiment of righteousness, that ismbetter.” [Al Qur'an 7:26]

    It is clear that Satan is the one who established the call for Tabar’roj and vanity and showing off. He is the Cheif Executive Officer of those who facilitate and call for the exploitation of women. Satan is the “Imam” of everyone who obeys and follows him in disobedience to Allah (The Most Merciful).

    The Prophet (pbuh) said:

    “I have not left after me any (chance) of turmoil more harmful to men than the test of women. [Sahih Muslim]

    Adam (pbuh) forgot, made a mistake, repented and asked forgiveness from Allah and Allah the Oft-Forgiving accepted Adam’s repentance. The struggle between Adam’s off-springs and Shaytan continues. The devil still whispers to drive us, men and women, to disobey God and follow sin. There is no safeguard except returning to God in good faith and repentance, remembering God and asking His help us to overcome lust and desire. For Allah (swt) says:

    “And whoever contradicts and opposes the Messenger after the right path has been shown clearly to him, and follows other than the this, We shall keep him in the path he has chosen and burn him in Hell; what an evil destination!” [Al Qur'an 4:115]

    (3) Tabar’roj is a Trait from the Times of Jahileeyah (Ignorance)

    The call to bring about the times of Jahilyeeyah were the pre-Islamic arab community would even circumvent the Kabbah (House of God) naked are similar to the call for Tabar’roj, both of which are adverse and destructive, the reason why they made unlawful by the Messenger (pbuh) who said:

    “Verily! every matter of Jahilyeeyah is beneath me!” [At-Tirmidhi]

    Tabar’roj and all forms of Jahilyeeyah such as false pride and haughtiness, ill thoughts about God, calling for falsehood, setting up rivals with God, usury, severing of the ties of kinship, consuming intoxicants and decadence of all natures is inlcuded.

    (4) Tabar’roj is antethical to the Human Condition

    To reveal and expose are natural behaviors from the realm of the animal kingdom. Whenever man inclines towards such behaviors he starts his decline to a level lower than the level of vicegerency of the earth which Allah (swt) had bestowed upon him. Allah bestowed a natural inclination or disposition known as the Fitrah in Islam, towards covering, preservation, and safeguarding modesty. To consider the acts of display, exposition, and uncovering as acts of beauty reflects a defilement to the Fitrah and a decline of morality.

    The progress of man’s civility is linked to his/her covering of the body. The Hijab cover is fitting to the instinct of Gheerah (respect/dignity)which draws its strength from the soul. The so called “liberation from the chains of covering” is an instinct that draws its strength from lust which incites Tabar’roj and inappropriate free mixing of the sexes. The one who is satisfied with this latter instinct must sacrifice the first one in order to silence the voice of the innate Gheerah in his heart and concious in return for the”enjoyment” of Tabar’roj and free mixing. From this we understand that the Tabar’roj is a sign of corruption of the Fitrah, lack of bashfulness, Gheerah, and insensitivity.

    (5) Tabar’roj is One of the Doors to the Spreading of Disobedience

    Anyone who carefully examines the Islamic Texts (Qur’an and Sunnah) and lessons from history, can quickley deduce the evils of Tabar’roj and its harm, both in religious and worldly matters, especially when it is associated with the mixing of sexes. Some of its underlying consequences are:

    -The competition amongst women in showing off their beauty. This is seduction, and it can lead to the spoiling of morality and leaves women as articles exhibited for all to view.

    -The corruption of the morality of men and women, especially the youth and those in adolescence. Causing many to commit various kinds of sins.

    -Adultry and the breaking of family ties and causing a lack of trust between family members resulting in the spread of divorce.

    -The commercial abuse and exploitation of women in the world of advertisement and entertainment

    - The spread of sexually transmitted diseases.

    The Prophet (pbuh) said:

    “Sins didn’t spread in any particular nation until the people openly indulged in it and as a result, plague and other illnesses that were not present among their predecessors became widespread amongst them.” [Sahih Muslim]

    The Conditions for Islamic Hijab

    The Hijab Musn’t be an Apparent Source of Display

    The Hijab itself must not be a display. Allah ordained it so as to cover the beauty of women and not to exhibit. He (swt) says:

    “And not to show of their adornment except only that which is apparent.” [Qur'an 24:31]

    It is not logical that the Hijab itself be a source of display. Some sisters wear overly attractive covers on their heads. This is contrary to the purity of the Hijab and its essence.

    The Hijab Musn’t be Transparent

    In order for the Hijab to be a cover, it must not be made of transparent material making the woman covered only by name while in reality she is technically uncovered.

    The Prophet (pbuh) said:

    “In the latest part of my Ummah (nation of Muslims) there shall be women who would be naked in spite of being dressed, they have hair high like the humps of the Bukht camel, they are cursed” [At-Tabarani]

    He (pbuh) added in another hadith:

    “They will not enter Al-Jannah and would not perceive its odour, although its fragrance can be perceived from such and such distance.(Sahih Muslim]

    The Hijab should be Flowing and not Tight

    The Hijab is a safeguard against Fitna. If tight, it will be descriptive of the woman’s body and this violates the purpose of Hijab. Usamma Bin Zaid (ra) said:

    “The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) dressed me with a thick Qubtyeeyah (cotton dress from Egypt) which was a gift that he received from Duhia Al-Kalbi. So I gave it to my wife to wear. He (pbuh) said : “What made you not to wear the Qubtyeeyah?” I said: “I dressed my wife with it. ” He (pbuh) said: ” Order her to put an undergarment (or gown) under it,because I am afraid it may describe the size of her bones.[Ahmed, At-Tabarani]

    The Hijab shouldn’t be used to Seek Fame

    The Messenger (pbuh) said:

    “The one who wears a garment designed for a worldly fame, Allah will make him wear a garment of humility on the Day of Resurrection then it will be set ablaze.” [Abu Dawoud]

    The garment of fame is any garment a person wears to make them look famous. This applies whether the garment is highly precious and shows admiration to the life of this world or if it is chosen of a low quality to show lack of interest to this worldly life. The person may put on clothes with distinct colors so as to draw attention, act proudly and/or arrogantly. So the intention behind the hijab should be pure and clear and further one should not become haughty and proud because they fulfil this Islamic directive and begin to look down upon others who do not, for indeed judgement and the secret of hearts are Allah’s (swt) domain alone.

    My dear sisters, be mindful to Allah (swt) and His Messenger (pbuh) and do not be deceived by those who may “bless” this action of yours and conceal their true intentions. Do not be deceived and let your response be: ” I am better than those who are in a complete state of display!” There is no excuse to follow this distortion. Know that the fire of Hell has different lower levels while Paradise has different higher levels. So it is proper to follow your sisters who truly adhere to the Islamic Hijab and its conditions. Aim high towards the highest levels of Al-Jannah. It has been related that the Prophet (pbuh) said:

    “Look at those who stand at lower levels than you (regarding worldly wealth) and those who stand at higher levels than you in religion (adherence to faith). for this would not make the favors (conferred upon you by Allah) insignificant (in your eyes).”

    “Verily those who say: “Our Lord is Allah (Alone), and then they stood
    straight (i.e. they believed in the Oneness of Allah and worshipped none but Him (Alone) and obeyed Him for all that He ordered them) on them the angels will descend (at the time of their death) (saying ); “Fear you not, nor grieve! But receive the glad tidings of Al-Jannah which you have been promised” [Qur'an 41:30].

    Al-Hassan Al Basri, may Allah’s Mercy be upon him, said: ” If Shaytan (the devil) looks and finds you continuously adhering to the obedience of Allah he will seek you (i.e. check you) one time after the other. If he finds that you are still holding, he becomes weary of you and rejects you. But if you adhere one time and you do not another, then he becomes covetous: he wants to have you for himself.”

    We Hear and We Obey

    The sincere and honest Muslim receives the order of Allah (swt) and hastens to manifest his love for Islam into action and listens to and obeys the Sunnah of the Prophet (pbuh). He does not give attention to the misleading ways of the masses of human beings who do not realise their inevitable meeting with Allah (swt), for Allah (swt) negated the existence of belief in those who turn away from Him and from His Messenger (pbuh) saying:

    “The saying of the faithful believers when they are called to Allah (His
    Words-the Qur’an) and His Messenger (pbuh) to judge between them is only that they say: ‘We hear and we obey.’And such are the successful.” [Al Qur'an 24:51-52]

    Therefore, there is no choice but to submit to the order of Allah (swt) and no hesitation should exist in following the ruling of Allah (swt). So come for repentance, O my Muslim sister, and watch for words like “I will repent, I will pray, I will cover with Hijab”,because delaying the repentance is a sin that you must repent from and who is to say that you will get that chance! Say as Allah (swt) said on the tongue of Musa (May Allah’s peace be upon him):

    “I hasten to you, O my Lord, to please You” [Al Qur'an 20:84]

    And say as the believing men and women said:

    We hear and we obey, we seek your forgiveness, our Lord and to you is the return” [Al Qur'an 2:285]

    Allahu Akbar…what do you think Munafiqoon, cool article yes. hehehehehehe

    Hurry up and get the Prevent Dismantlement article up, I have comments to make. hehehehe

  4. Rob in Madison
    Posted July 15, 2010 at 12:18 AM | Permalink

    Well. That was refreshing.

    Moving on: ” It is not the business of governments to tell women who choose to wear the veil that they are oppressing themselves. And it is certainly not a government’s place to arbitrate in theological debates as to what is or isn’t a religious requirement.” Good point. But the issue is that acceptance of hijabs and niqabs in the public sphere might be seen as part of a gradual trend in French society that could progressively allow tolerance of Islamic strictures.

    Whether this is a legitimate concern, I dunno. Looks a lot like trying to predict the future. But the concern is understandable, I think. Giving women grief for their clothes is probably not the soundest approach to the problem.

  5. qidniz
    Posted July 15, 2010 at 12:28 AM | Permalink

    Oh look, another copy-paste blog-warrior. How impressive.

    Not.

  6. Abu Faris
    Posted July 15, 2010 at 11:17 AM | Permalink

    Giving women grief for their clothes is probably not the soundest approach to the problem.

    But that is exactly what the French government are *not* doing. The enquiry tasked with investigating this matter made a number of recommendations to the interested ministries, who then presented the matter to the National Assembly. The enquiry consulted with and worked very closely with both the various Muslim bodies in France and with women’s groups (both Muslim and multi-faith). This is indicative of the seriousness and sensitivity with which the French state proceeded in this matter.

    Again, I reiterate: not only did the French state discover the absolutely tiny minority of women who habitually wore the niqab (and this issue concerns the niqab solely, not the hijab) in France – but also disclosed the lack of opposition to legislation on these matters from various Muslim stakeholder bodies in metropolitan France.

    Again, it should be emphasised that the French model legislation covers state employees’ dress code. The law will not ban the wearing of the niqab either in private, nor will it ban its wearing on the streets or going about one’s lawful business beyond the restrictions upon the wearing this item of over-clothing whilst gainfully employed in certain state jobs and professions and in certain public arenas. The law is very similar to restrictions upon the niqab enforced in certain Muslim-majority Gulf states in point of fact.

    As an aside, should the French government have chosen to make a popularist issue of this matter, given that over 80% of French respondents want a *complete* ban on the wearing of both the niqab *and* hijab, things could have been very different. It is thus commendable that the French government have refused to give in to this temptation to make political capital of this issue.

  7. Abu Faris
    Posted July 15, 2010 at 11:21 AM | Permalink

    Qidniz

    The final “hehehehehe” of the copy-and-paste warrior’s “comment” gives the game away. It is the same Islamist mentalist troll up to his standard “bore them into submision” routine again.

  8. John
    Posted July 15, 2010 at 5:11 PM | Permalink

    @Yeasin:

    What are your views on this?

    The great Burqa debate

    Is it tricky? Actually, no. It is easier to understand if we bring the situation to our country. Let’s take an example of violations of basic civil rights in Pakistan. Ahmadis by law are not allowed to practice or preach their faith publicly. They can’t call themselves Muslims or call their places of worship mosques. The state seized their basic right of freedom of religion. The comparison of this situation with the burqa ban makes the French appear totally justified in attempting to preserve their constitutional tradition – because in a democratic setup decisions are made according to the will of majority.

    http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/554/the-great-burqa-debate/

  9. Kisan
    Posted July 15, 2010 at 8:18 PM | Permalink

    The author came from a liberal household and started wearing it only after personally getting a bit zealous in her religiosity. That is however a rare case. Generally the pressure comes from the males, it is mandated and even fatwas are issued allowing for beating women who don’t wear it and show their hands:

    http://islam-qa.com/en/ref/49945

    Many Fundamentalists preach that it is wajib:

    http://muttaqun.com/niqab.html

    What happened in the case of a liberal family member playing with it and then moving on isn’t so relevant or typical. Rather it is the forced aspect of it that makes countering it with strong (read draconian) laws perhaps necessary to make it clear that it does indeed strongly contradict humanistic values and is an unwelcome guest in the modern world.

  10. Abu Faris
    Posted July 16, 2010 at 4:58 AM | Permalink

    I agree, Kisan.

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