Channel 4 Dispatches: Jamaat-e-Islam in the UK

The extent of the intertwined linkages between the East London Mosque, the Islamic Forum Europe, the Muslim Council of Britain and the South Asian far-right Islamist party, Jamaat-e-Islam is to be the subject of 2 Channel 4 Dispatches programmes, to be shown on Monday 1st and 8th of March. An accompanying article on the documentay by Andrew Gilligan, who will front the documentary, is in today’s Sunday Telegraph.

The mosque and IFE are inextricably intertwined. Dr Mohammed Abdul Bari, the chairman of the mosque, and its vice-chairman are former IFE presidents.

The director and imam of the mosque are trustees of the group. Of 22 IFE trustees in recent years, only five have not also been trustees or officeholders of the religious centre.
The mosque calls the IFE a “social welfare organisation” and the IFE presents itself as committed to “community cohesion” and “tolerance”.

But the undercover reporters discovered that it was also a sophisticated political group with a structured rank system and hardline goals.

Prospective recruits must attend training. One undercover reporter was told that she would have to take an exam and swear an oath of allegiance and ordered to keep her membership of the IFE a secret.

The nature of Jamaat’s fascist, supremacist ideology and the extremely sophisticated methodology of its propagation are well documented in the article. It’s all there:

1) The championing of fascist Islamic supremacist ideologues such as Syed Mawdud, the godfather of Islamism:

The key text, Let Us Be Muslims, by Syed Mawdudi, a high priest of Islamism, instructs recruits: “The sacred duty of Muslims … wherever you are, in whichever country you live, you must strive to change the wrong basis of government, and seize all powers to rule and make laws from those who do not fear God.”

2) The indoctrination of young people:

The nature of that Islamic social and political order in Britain was made clear when Mr Rabbani said: “Whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.” He instructed the recruits to “protect yourselves” from music, television and “free mixing with women in that which is not necessary”.

3) The certainty of it’s religious supremacism:

Mr Abideen attacked key moderate Muslims for “flirting with the West and the media to convince them that we are ‘good peaceful Muslims’”.

He said they were examples of “deviation” who would go to hell. Another IFE document said: “IFE’s primary work is in Europe because it is this continent, despite all the furore about its achievements, which has a moral and spiritual vacuum.”

Our old friend Azad Ali, head of the Civil Service Islamic Society, “lover” of Anwar al-Awlaki and Abdullah Azzam, gets a namecheck too:

Azad Ali, the IFE’s community affairs coordinator, was filmed by the undercover reporters stating: “Democracy, if it means at the expense of not implementing the sharia, no one’s going to agree with that.”
The IFE is not itself a violent organisation. None of its members is known to have been personally implicated in any terrorist act and it has, apparently sincerely, condemned terrorist attacks in London.
However, the IFE appears satisfied to host speakers who advocate hatred and violence. Several of its senior officials, including Mr Ali, until recently defended Anwar al-Awlaki, who is blamed for inspiring at least three terrorist attacks, including September 11 and the attempted underwear bombing in Detroit.
Several IFE activists and officials, including Mr Ali, support Hamas, which is designated as a terrorist organisation by the British and American governments. Mr Ali advocates the destruction of Israel, justifies the killing of British troops in Iraq, believes al-Qaeda is a “myth” and has praised Osama bin Laden’s mentor, Abdullah Azzam.

When I discussed the forthcoming Dispatches documentary with a friend of mine, he made the following observations:

“I just hope they provide more content and context than previous docs. I know they obviously dont want Carter Ruck all over them, but if they are going to make accusations about Jamaat as a movement they should at least give us some examples of radicalism and how their ideology is manifest into action. The ’71 war crimes involvement, Jamaat student wings trying to take over Bangladeshi and Pakistani universities through extreme violence, such as cutting the tendons of their “enemies”, so targetted students can never walk again, money laundering, the Gitmo prisoners with Jamaat backgrounds, the whole lot…”

One can but hope.

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55 Comments

  1. abdullah
    Posted February 28, 2010 at 3:02 PM | Permalink

    The nature of that Islamic social and political order in Britain was made clear when Mr Rabbani said: “Whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.”

    This of course is a quote from the Holy Quran (Al ‘Imran 3:85).
    Not that Spitoon would know that. Thanks for making it clear that what you munafiqs at Spitoon oppose is the Quran, not just certain Muslim groups, as you feebly claim.

  2. Gertcha
    Posted February 28, 2010 at 4:26 PM | Permalink

    Please note that Abdullah describes posters on the Spittoon as “munafiq” – despite the warning given on an earlier thread that poeple using this term of others would be banned from this site.

    Goodbye, Abdullah.

  3. abdullah
    Posted February 28, 2010 at 6:31 PM | Permalink

    So why dont you ban outright racists who use racist names like “Abu Wanabee Arab” ?

  4. Sanjay
    Posted February 28, 2010 at 11:14 PM | Permalink

    I am looking forward to this so much. Hopefully it will be a turning point in the appreciation amongst the public, and amongst politicians and opinion formers, of the nature of the politics and their techniques to seize power at a local level. Well done to all who were involved.

  5. Yaseen
    Posted February 28, 2010 at 11:56 PM | Permalink

    No turning point Sanjay..though your hatred of Islam would obviously desire as much, but the following:

    That coming so close to a general election, the documentary is politically motivated and that the programme will undoubtedly increase community tension and harm genuine attempts at community cohesion. Not that Channel 4 or the Spittoon give a shit. As usual the documentary is a dishonest attempt at scaremongering and vilifying Muslim communities and religious institutions, whilst pandering to the BNP and the Far Right. It begs an imporatant question; what is wrong with Muslims being politically engaged and active in civic society and the politics of the common good?

    I would suspect this attempted criminilisation and dishonest portrayal of an established, honorably active and engaged Muslim community organisation like the IFE will only contribute to further alienating young Muslims and draw them towards extremism. This is all part of a series of organised, vindictive and orchestrated witch hunts against Muslim personalities, institutions and organisations which aims at undoing the noteable and excellent work done by them. Ultimately this is irresponsible and reprehensible journalism by Channel 4, which makes a mockery of its stated aim of representing and celebrating Britain’s diversity and multi-culturalism.

    Alhamdu’Lilah nothing new…indeed Allah (swt) is the best of planners and in Him is our trust.

  6. dawood
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 12:05 AM | Permalink

    Yaseen,

    Are you a member of the IFE?

    According to the Sunday Telegraph article, some serious accusations of voter registration “irregularities” have taken place under the watch of the present leader of the Tower Hamlets council, Lutfor Rahman:

    From 2006 to 2008, membership in the Bethnal Green and Bow constituency more than doubled from 551 to 1,159, at a time when the party’s membership nationally was in steep decline. In 2006, the party, like the constituency, was roughly 50-50 Asian and non-Asian.

    But 90 per cent of the new members were Asian. Some 175 joined in a two-week period between Sept 14-28, 2007, and 31 on a single day – Sept 20, 2007.

    Some of the new members told The Sunday Telegraph they were signed up en bloc by Lutfur Rahman, the man accused of rising to the council leadership with the IFE’s help.

    Is the Channel 4/Telegraph report being dishonest or are you simply defending the criminal activities of the IFE and the sudden, dodgy rise in recorded membership?

  7. Yaseen
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 12:28 AM | Permalink

    Why do you have such difficulty digesting the fact that support of an organisation does not automate membership, I have no connection with them. But you imbeciles have to understand that there are Mulsims out there who detest your sole object of select Mulsim organisational debasement, hence they are likely to consider support of anyone you continually offend and degrade. I am not privy to the anommolies this clearly distorted article attempts to purport, if they do genuinely exist, then they should be investigated. Anyhow is this the closest thing they have done to a crime…or is there more reasons to dedicate a prime-time 8pm Channel 4 spot to them???

  8. Sanjay
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 12:31 AM | Permalink

    Yaseen, I assume you are sympathetic to the far-right racist bigoted supremacist Mawdudi disciples of the IFE and Jamaat-e-Islami? Well, the bad news is that your goose is cooked. Muslims, and non Muslims who oppose far-right communalist supremacist politics are onto you, your number is up, and you will be scrutinised, and your politics of entryism confronted. No amount of wailing about being persecuted will stop that.

  9. dawood
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 12:32 AM | Permalink

    Yaseen, get out of the firing range fucktard, or explain why the sudden jump in membership is defensible. After that, have a go at explaining why support of a genocidalist, extremist, religious supremacist, sectarian entryist org of Jamaat is good for the Labour Party.

  10. Sanjay
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 12:50 AM | Permalink

    Notice how Yaseen spits in the well of good intention by using buzz words like ‘multiculturalism’ and ‘diversity’ as camouflage for his ideology and self. Can there be anything more craven and annoying than this? The IFE and the Mawdudists and Jamaatis are the absolute antithesis of the principles of pluralism and tolerance, and yet they steal these clothes in order to cover themselves when exposed. The arrogance and nerve is breathtaking!

  11. Yaseen
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 12:58 AM | Permalink

    Sanjay I think you should be more concerned about your own state affairs…and until you morons invent an Islamistometer which will help you detect, brand with an iron and incarcerate indefinitely all those you suspect of holding views on Islam and politics, you should just carry on swimming around in your 2ft by 2ft shit pond. I am not an extremist, niether am I a religious supremacist, sectarian or genocidalist…I am a Muslim who believes in the Book of Allah, the Sunnah of the Prophet and the Sharia has relayed by him. And I am sure any practicing Muslim would state the same…

  12. Mufti Diver
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 1:55 AM | Permalink

    Yaseen,

    In other words you are a believer in the stoning to death of adulterers and the murder of homosexuals; you despise democracy and want theocracy. You think all Jews are scum and Christians and other non-Muslims are “polytheists” (although you are not sure what that word actually means).

    After all, that is what Islamist scum like you think “shari’a” and “Sunnah” mean.

    I tell you what, I’ll lend you a time-machine, you travel back to the 7th Century and live there. Fuck off.

  13. Yaseen
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 10:38 AM | Permalink

    Mufti Driver, your final sentiments were wonderfully put and underline the essence of this filthy Islamophobic and racist site, well-done…Any true Muslim loves the legislation as decreed by Allah (swt) and His Messenger…we embrace the Sunnah and uphold the Sharia.

  14. Posted March 1, 2010 at 10:47 AM | Permalink

    We don’t have any responsibility of the views held by people who comment on this site Yaseen. There are racist, bigoted, supremacist Islamophobes out there just as there are racist, bigoted, supremacist Islamists. They are all allowed to comment here, just as you do but have no influence on the views of this blog.

  15. LEA Islam
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 1:02 PM | Permalink

    Gertcha – make a note the term ‘munafiq’ is arabic for hyprocrite, having read some of the ‘f’-ing and blinding from some of your friends here and other derogatory terms used on this blog what on earth are you on about?
    Sanjay and mufti diver- your responses to Yaseen are extremely ignorant and pathetic, good luck to you both in knocking your brain cells together to spark any thread of logic that might exist!
    Effendi – The whole point of this blog is to share opinion that is SUPPOSED to have an influence i.e. reaction, reflection, and subsequenttly a response (which you gave) so you just contradicates yourself there love!
    Yaseen – “and guide eachother to truth and guide eachother to patience” Mashallah.

  16. Posted March 1, 2010 at 1:11 PM | Permalink

    LEA, “munafiq” is a takfiri slur and is also hugely offensive. You know all about taking offence, but you seem to give yourself all sorts of latitude when giving it. The only group authorised to declare a Muslim a kafir are the ulema. Are you or your friend Yaseen qualified to call yourselves ulema or are you just angry young Salafis, brave and righteous only when you’re behind a keyboard?

  17. LEA Islam
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM | Permalink

    No actually Effendi, I don’t attach myself as salafi, hanafi, shiite, or any other sect/denomination, I’m not Christian! The Prophet may peace and blessings be upon him never proclaimed himself to any madhab, I am simply a muslim defending my rights. SO you are riding in the wrong direction there. I never called anyone a kafir which in english means “unbeliever of Islam”, the term ‘munafiq’ being hugely offensive is self subscribed and one which I am not prepared to listen to pathetic protests about how offensive it is. Lastly what I am or am not qualified to say or do does not sit with you fortunately for me, because you definately are lost! I didn’t even mention the term ‘kafir’ in my comments. In terms of hiding behind my keyboard, are you suggesting a fight because this has hit a nerve with you? Again I don’t know how else to put this to you perhaps you should read this very slow. This is a debating blog and this is what is taking place so deal with it.

  18. Posted March 1, 2010 at 2:59 PM | Permalink

    LEA Islam.

    There are some (not many) house rules that apply here. One of them is keeping on topic and another is avoiding the use of gratuitous offence. If you can’t abide by them, then you can fuck off you munafiq.

    Sorry, only joking. Debate on. ;-)

  19. LEA Islam
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 3:00 PM | Permalink

    lol
    and nobody said anything about being ‘brave and righteous’, if that is what is scaring you about two young muslims putting across their opinions. This is a blatant witch-hunt against muslims and to be honest I can’t be bothered with your banter. see ya

  20. IFE Hater
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 3:52 PM | Permalink

    Whats wrong with witch hunts against Fascists?

  21. Yaseen
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 5:20 PM | Permalink

    ‘…and another is avoiding the use of gratuitous offence.’ A munafiqal staement if ever I heard one, this whole site is on colossal mark of gratuitous offence…have you forgotten your nasty mocks of the week, where you pock fun at innocent Muslim fathers, brothers, sisters and family men…

  22. Shaykh Wiki
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 7:29 PM | Permalink

    This programme is just another muslim bashing doc. The basic jist of it is that Muslims will never be accpeted in the western society. Because those who have tried to engage in the political process are now ‘trying to creat an islamic state in the uk’.

    Well just a point – this is a tactic being used for political purposes i.e. the upcoming election! Paranoia is wide spread and it really makes me laugh. So the only messgae being spread by the media is that Muslims are not welcome or even wanted in this country.

  23. Abu Faris
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 7:59 PM | Permalink

    Gosh, Shaykh Wiki – how many other threads are you going to post the same old crap on?

  24. Ms scott
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 9:16 PM | Permalink

    Let me tell the muslims who really believe this was just another political programme – there are many – infact a lot of ordinary british people who are sick to death of hearing about the wonderful musilm faith. I for one am pissed off with it there is more to the world than one bloody religion.
    AND I would fight on the streets if this relgion every became powerful – yes this country has already fought against the fsacists another one wouldn’t be that difficult. Why dont these organisations GO HOME to a Musilm country and leave this sodding country alone – PLEASE

  25. Posted March 1, 2010 at 9:42 PM | Permalink

    Brilliant! One of the best Dispatches covering this issue. Well done to all who were involved with its making.

  26. ian green
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 9:44 PM | Permalink

    When is this government going to wake up and realize that the uk is infested with this islamic fundamentalist scum,these people are so brain washed and uneducated we will have a fight to rid ourselves of them now,unless the powers that be start to regain England immediatley,islam is 1000 years behind the rest of the world and has no place in a civilised world.What sort of religion promises 70 virgins for killing children and women.It,s not a religion it,s a cult.

  27. ali ali
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 9:51 PM | Permalink

    Mohammed was a robber and a murderer was he not,why do muslims follow a murderer?He was probably a sausage jockey as well.

  28. Mahboob
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 9:53 PM | Permalink

    just watched the hilarious skinhead andrew gilligan. It seems the racist white elements within the labour party along with the fail ex awami league gangsters with seventies haircuts have come to terms that they no longer have a hegemony over east london and cannot hack it. Oh yeh and you have the ex-islamist clown brigade along for the ride, bleating about how ‘Muslims believe in God and that and some people don’t so…community cohesion…’ Epic Fail.

  29. mohammed
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 9:57 PM | Permalink

    islam what a fucking joke,barbaric knuckle dragging benefit scroungers,England doesen,t want you,please go home.You are not welcome.

  30. shameem
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 9:57 PM | Permalink

    Epic Fail is right.

    An Epic Fail of secular, moderate Muslims by the Labour Party.

    By the ideologues of the Guardian who have made it so fucking difficult for anyone to criticise these people without being tagged as Islamophobic or anti-Muslim or “right-wing” conspiracy.

  31. shameem
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 10:02 PM | Permalink

    And did you see the amount of public money being handed over to these bastards at the expense of normal community, non-Islamist initiatives?

    Something has gone horribly wrong.

  32. dawood
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 10:07 PM | Permalink

    Well that was a top-notch production from Dispatches.

    Well done to the Spittoon for bringing most of those issues covered in the doc to our attention on this blog. I’m real proud of ya!

  33. Wajid
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 10:25 PM | Permalink

    Sheikh Wiki – if that’s what you learnt from despatches I assume you will be leaving us soon and pissing off to Somalia or Afghanistan. Secondly, Muslims can participate in politics and many do, it’s entry level Islamists that are not welcome. Not here, not in Pakistan, not in Bangladesh or any where else.

  34. Mahboob
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 10:46 PM | Permalink

    yeh you and who’s army mate?

  35. Mahboob
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 10:48 PM | Permalink

    quote of the day was from gilligan himself – introducing Paul Richards as “someone who has a bit of experience in entryist organisations” – thus completely undermining his guest in one move

  36. chicksand street guy
    Posted March 1, 2010 at 10:59 PM | Permalink

    The only person who completely undermined themselves just by opening their own mouths was the biggest IFE entryist of them all – Tower Hamlets Council leader Lutfor Rahman.

  37. DG
    Posted March 2, 2010 at 10:13 AM | Permalink

    The way some here are reacting here is laughable! Bloody gullible bunch! Some of you are like puppets jumping in fear while some other dude pulls your strings…

    I thought a politically educated bunch would have half the brains to spot the difference between politically manoeuvred McCarthy-style scaremongering from objective investigations. Obviously not. Looks like all the fancy political jargon used by dudes here is simply a self-assuring farce…

    Muslims are such a small minority as a total population, let alone this one organisation. All this talk of ‘take-overs’ would’ve been ridiculous were it not or the ‘angry’ reactions from non-muslims…with their violent undertones (yes, there’s a new breed of ‘jihadist’ non-muslims coming out. Ms Scott, see you on the street with your broomstick when the apocalypse you predict comes !).

  38. Shaykh Wiki
    Posted March 2, 2010 at 11:15 PM | Permalink

    Abu Faris old boy have i touched a nerve? Looks like I hurt your little feelings.

    But DG has a good point to make, the scaremongoring works and boy are you guys scared of a tiny muslim group (IFE) in a tiny muslim population in towerhamlets. I must say the islamophobe who presented the programme used the best words to get maximum results. And yes I cannot stop laughing at the programme because it was hysterical.

  39. letscallitacrusade
    Posted March 10, 2010 at 5:44 AM | Permalink

    Pathetic, wasting precious time in life debating, you got something to say, take action, please dont waste your time blagging away when you know the only other person that will be reading your bshit is by another jimmy joe, who probably wants to pump thier ego up a little too… Read your facts wisely, interepret and analyse, then object and project…. then open your eyes.

  40. childrenofgaza
    Posted March 15, 2010 at 2:19 PM | Permalink

    Dispatches tonight is about the Children of Gaza and their appalling suffering from bombing and blockade by Israel.

    Suprise suprise that while Spitoon highlights the Dispatches IFE programme they ignore the Dispatches Gaza programme lest they upset their zionists masters.

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/episode-guide/series-56/episode-1

    Monday 15 March 8pm Channel 4
    Sunday 21 March 4.15am Channel 4

  41. Posted March 15, 2010 at 2:23 PM | Permalink

    We’re not as familiar with what is going on in Gaza as we are with Islamists in Tower Hamlets. That should explain where we concentrate our posts. Furthermore, you will find plenty of others from the liberal left who will cover this issue and side with Hamas and Hizbollah, so you’re not short of blog coverage or allies.

  42. mansur
    Posted March 15, 2010 at 2:26 PM | Permalink

    The nature of that Islamic social and political order in Britain was made clear when Mr Rabbani said: “Whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers”.

    You are so laughably jahil jahil jahil you dont even know that this is not what “Mr Rabbani said ” but what Allah (SWT) says in the Quran

    وَمَن يَبۡتَغِ غَيۡرَ ٱلۡإِسۡلَـٰمِ دِينً۬ا فَلَن يُقۡبَلَ مِنۡهُ وَهُوَ فِى ٱلۡأَخِرَةِ مِنَ ٱلۡخَـٰسِرِينَ
    “Whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers.” (3:85)

    So you have a problem not with the IFE but with the book of Allah

    What does this ayah have to do with creating an “Islamic social and political order in Britain” ?

  43. bananabrain
    Posted March 15, 2010 at 2:27 PM | Permalink

    yes, it’s amazing, there are six hours to broadcast and yet i haven’t received my instructions from zionist central on how to complain about this clearly disgusting anti-semitic programme. perhaps they are asleep, or too busy plotting to exert their control over us. what rubbish secret masters they are, to be sure. perhaps they should subcontract their spin control to the ife?

    newsflash, hotshot – we are not a blog that focuses on israel-palestine as a political issue; we deal with extremism and clerical fascism, within both societies, as a matter of course, but if you want to join a balanced and fair debate where your views will no doubt be given their due, i suggest you try pickled politics or harry’s place.

    b’shalom

    bananabrain

  44. Posted March 15, 2010 at 2:28 PM | Permalink

    So you have a problem not with the IFE but with the book of Allah

    And for you they must be the same thing.

  45. mansur
    Posted March 15, 2010 at 2:46 PM | Permalink

    “So you have a problem not with the IFE but with the book of Allah”

    Faisal

    And for you they must be the same thing.

    Says the person who heard an ayah of the Quran, the word of God and attributed it to the IFE !!!

    hahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahhahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahah

  46. mansur
    Posted March 15, 2010 at 2:50 PM | Permalink

    dawood

    According to the Sunday Telegraph article, some serious accusations of voter registration “irregularities” have taken place under the watch of the present leader of the Tower Hamlets council, Lutfor Rahman

    Yes and according to the Telegraph you use as a your source
    “Muslims are a threat to our way of life” and “All Muslims, like all dogs, share certain characteristics.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3608849/Muslims-are-a-threat-to-our-way-of-life.html

  47. Posted March 15, 2010 at 2:54 PM | Permalink

    no no no. I said the IFE and the word of God mean are qualitatively the same to you. Some jokes literalists like yourself are never going to get.

  48. firoz
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 10:01 AM | Permalink

    If we consider Jamate Islami as an offspring of Ikhwaanul Muslimeen(Laterwords Muslimbrotherhood) of Egypt founded by HASSAN AL-BANNA a Soofee and a Mufawwidh (rejecter of the Attributes of Allaah). As he himself narrates, he would visit the shrines and indulge in many innovatory practices.

    The movement of Ikhwaanul Mulimeen becomemore institutional by the aid of SAYYID QUTB,ispired by deviation of the writting of Mawdudi was more of a literary writer than scholar, Sayyid Qutb made very many serious mistakes in creed and introduced ideas that have led to the birth of destructive political movements.

    During the rise of Nazism(In Germany) with the favor of Jesuits from VATICAN,Rome,Ikqwaanul Muslimeen was aided to form its establishment aroound the middle-east & beyond by the Nazi Germany through Al Saud familly(Saudi Arabia),Abdulla of Jordan & Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.Suac a manner the ideology of Ikhwaan spread out in the middle-east,Africa & also establish
    its foothold in Europe & USA.

    In the same nature,the deviated ideology of Mowdudi that byass Quran, The House of Al Saud of Saudi Arabia aid & finance Mowdudi to establish Jamate Islami in Pakistan.Laterwards it spraed out in the most countries of south-east Asia.

    Both are working at the same ideology just acting on two fractional identities.Now a days,it has more breeds like SIM, SIO, SIMI, Hizb-ut-tahreer, IY, ICC etc. They all have same Methodology, means they all have same Manhaj. THEY have led to the birth of destructive political movements, as well as promoting un-Islamic revolutionary modes of thought violating the Quran (Teaching,advices,Laws & commandments of Allah) associating Bidah & Deviations.

    For any individual understanding for the above information please go through the study on the Mohqamat verses of Quran.Next do your personal comparative analysis acquiring the information from other sources.

    By the same ways,Jesuits(Society of Jesus formed at Vatican) inspired France(French Intelligence) cause to rise the radical wing of Shia/Shitte movement first at Iran through Ayatullah Khomeini and then laterwards at Iraq,Afghanistan,Pakistan(Bhuttos) ,Afghanistan,Lebanon,Syria and elsewhere.

    So we do observe afdeadly fractional conflict & control for power established and pushed forwared by the Jesuits & their master Illuminati freemasons in the muslim world along with ellements of Hate,violance,blind & brainwashed ideologies and complete-clear deviation & innovation in the name of True Islam putting behind the Quran & its related Hadeeth(Historical/Eventual Speech of Rasulullah) references as a optional choice for a minority group of people terming them as weak and out of the accord of mainstream.

  49. firoz
    Posted April 12, 2011 at 10:01 AM | Permalink

    If we consider Jamate Islami as an offspring of Ikhwaanul Muslimeen(Laterwords Muslimbrotherhood) of Egypt founded by HASSAN AL-BANNA a Soofee and a Mufawwidh (rejecter of the Attributes of Allaah). As he himself narrates, he would visit the shrines and indulge in many innovatory practices.

    The movement of Ikhwaanul Mulimeen becomemore institutional by the aid of SAYYID QUTB,ispired by deviation of the writting of Mawdudi was more of a literary writer than scholar, Sayyid Qutb made very many serious mistakes in creed and introduced ideas that have led to the birth of destructive political movements.

    During the rise of Nazism(In Germany) with the favor of Jesuits from VATICAN,Rome,Ikqwaanul Muslimeen was aided to form its establishment aroound the middle-east & beyond by the Nazi Germany through Al Saud familly(Saudi Arabia),Abdulla of Jordan & Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.Suac a manner the ideology of Ikhwaan spread out in the middle-east,Africa & also establish
    its foothold in Europe & USA.

    In the same nature,the deviated ideology of Mowdudi that byass Quran, The House of Al Saud of Saudi Arabia aid & finance Mowdudi to establish Jamate Islami in Pakistan.Laterwards it spraed out in the most countries of south-east Asia.

    Both are working in the same ideology just acting two fractional identity.Now a days,it has more breeds like SIM, SIO, SIMI, Hizb-ut-tahreer, IY, ICC etc. They all have same Methodology, means they all have same Manhaj. THEY have led to the birth of destructive political movements, as well as promoting un-Islamic revolutionary modes of thought violating the Quran (Teaching,advices,Laws & commandments of Allah) associating Bidah & Deviations.

    For any individual understanding for the above information please go through the study on the Mohqamat verses of Quran.Next do your personal comparative analysis acquiring the information from other sources.

    By the same ways,Jesuits(Society of Jesus formed at Vatican) inspired France(French Intelligence) cause to rise the radical wing of Shia/Shitte movement first at Iran through Ayatullah Khomeini and then laterwards at Iraq,Afghanistan,Pakistan(Bhuttos) ,Afghanistan,Lebanon,Syria and elsewhere.

    So we do observe afdeadly fractional conflict & control for power established and pushed forwared by the Jesuits & their master Illuminati freemasons in the muslim world along with ellements of Hate,violance,blind & brainwashed ideologies and complete-clear deviation & innovation in the name of True Islam putting behind the Quran & its related hadeeth(Historical/Eventual Speech of Rasulullah) as a optional choice for a minority group of people terming them as weak and out of the accord of mainstream.

  50. PD
    Posted May 7, 2011 at 6:39 PM | Permalink

    I Thirst for You
    “Behold, I stand at the door and knock… (Rev. 3, 20)

    It is true. I stand at the door of your heart, day and night. Even when you are not listening, even when you doubt it could be Me, I am there. I await even the smallest sign of your response, even the least whispered invitation that will allow Me to enter.

    And I want you to know that whenever you invite Me, I do come – always, without fail. Silent and unseen I come, but with infinite power and love, and bringing the many gifts of My Spirit. I come with My mercy, with My desire to forgive and heal you, and with a love for you beyond your comprehension – a love every bit as great as the love I have received from the Father (“As much as the Father has loved me, I have loved you…” (Jn. 15:10) I come – longing to console you and give you strength, to lift you up and bind all your wounds. I bring you My light, to dispel your darkness and all your doubts. I come with My power, that I might carry you and all your burdens; with My grace, to touch your heart and transform your life; and My peace I give to still your soul.

    I know you through and through. I know everything about you. The very hairs of your head I have numbered. Nothing in your life is unimportant to Me. I have followed you through the years, and I have always loved you – even in your wanderings. I know every one of your problems. I know your needs and your worries. And yes, I know all your sins. But I tell you again that I love you – not for what you have or haven’t done – I love you for you, for the beauty and dignity My Father gave you by creating you in His own image. It is a dignity you have often forgotten, a beauty you have tarnished by sin. But I love you as you are, and I have shed My Blood to win you back. If you only ask Me with faith, My grace will touch all that needs changing in your life, and I will give you the strength to free yourself from sin and all its destructive power.

    I know what is in your heart – I know your loneliness and all your hurts – the rejections, the judgments, the humiliations, I carried it all before you. And I carried it all for you, so you might share My strength and victory. I know especially your need for love – how you are thirsting to be loved and cherished. But how often have you thirsted in vain, by seeking that love selfishly, striving to fill the emptiness inside you with passing pleasures – with the even greater emptiness of sin. Do you thirst for love? “Come to Me all you who thirst…” (Jn. 7: 37). I will satisfy you and fill you. Do you thirst to be cherished? I cherish you more than you can imagine – to the point of dying on a cross for you.

    I Thirst for You. Yes, that is the only way to even begin to describe My love for you. I THIRST FOR YOU. I thirst to love you and to be loved by you – that is how precious you are to Me. I THIRST FOR YOU. Come to Me, and I will fill your heart and heal your wounds. I will make you a new creation, and give you peace, even in all your trials I THIRST FOR YOU. You must never doubt My mercy, My acceptance of you, My desire to forgive, My longing to bless you and live My life in you. I THIRST FOR YOU. If you feel unimportant in the eyes of the world, that matters not at all. For Me, there is no one any more important in the entire world than you. I THIRST FOR YOU. Open to Me, come to Me, thirst for Me, give me your life – and I will prove to you how important you are to My Heart.

    Don’t you realize that My Father already has a perfect plan to transform your life, beginning from this moment? Trust in Me. Ask Me every day to enter and take charge of your life. – and I will. I promise you before My Father in heaven that I will work miracles in your life. Why would I do this? Because I THIRST FOR YOU. All I ask of you is that you entrust yourself to Me completely. I will do all the rest.

    Even now I behold the place My Father has prepared for you in My Kingdom. Remember that you are a pilgrim in this life, on a journey home. Sin can never satisfy you, or bring the peace you seek. All that you have sought outside of Me has only left you more empty, so do not cling to the things of this life. Above all, do not run from Me when you fall. Come to Me without delay. When you give Me your sins, you gave Me the joy of being your Savior. There is nothing I cannot forgive and heal; so come now, and unburden your soul.

    No matter how far you may wander, no matter how often you forget Me, no matter how many crosses you may bear in this life; there is one thing I want you to always remember, one thing that will never change. I THIRST FOR YOU – just as you are. You don’t need to change to believe in My love, for it will be your belief in My love that will change you. You forget Me, and yet I am seeking you every moment of the day – standing at the door of your heart and knocking. Do you find this hard to believe? Then look at the cross, look at My Heart that was pierced for you. Have you not understood My cross? Then listen again to the words I spoke there – for they tell you clearly why I endured all this for you: “I THIRST…”(Jn 19: 28). Yes, I thirst for you – as the rest of the psalm – verse I was praying says of Me: “I looked for love, and I found none…” (Ps. 69: 20). All your life I have been looking for your love – I have never stopped seeking to love you and be loved by you. You have tried many other things in your search for happiness; why not try opening your heart to Me, right now, more than you ever have before.

    Whenever you do open the door of your heart, whenever you come close enough, you will hear Me say to you again and again, not in mere human words but in spirit. “No matter what you have done, I love you for your own sake Come to Me with your misery and your sins, with your troubles and needs, and with all your longing to be loved. I stand at the door of your heart and knock. Open to Me, for I THIRST FOR YOU…”

    ——————————————————————————–

    “Jesus is God, therefore His love, His Thirst, is infinite. He the creator of the universe,
    asked for the love of His creatures.
    He thirst for our love… These words:
    ‘I Thirst’ –
    Do they echo in our souls?”

    Mother Teresa

  51. PD
    Posted May 7, 2011 at 6:40 PM | Permalink

    Who was Mohammed? What did his mission mean for mankind?
    ———————————-

    Mohammed was an instrument ( we shall not judge whether consciously or not ) of Satan. His purpose was to bring into actuality another aspect of the reign of satan in the history of humanity; an antichurch in opposition to the Church of Christ.
    Jesus applied the frightful expression ‘sons of the devil ‘ to those obstinate Jews who were obstructing the reign of God. In Christian tradition , Satan is called the Simia Dei, the ape of God, because he attempts to bring about his own reign on earth in opposition to the reign of God.
    He tries to set up his own antichurch against the true and only Church , his false religions against the one and true religion. The works of all the heresiarchs are humano-diabolic, but no heresy and no antichurch has the mark of Satan so prominently as Islam.
    Mohammed is one of satans ‘prophets’ and Islam is a form of satans pseudo religion, the most anti-Christian because it is the most contrary to the gospels.

    Let us recognise the natural merits of Mohammed-something that medieval Christianity refused to do: his religious character, his sincerity at the commencement of his prophetic career, his imaginative powers, his genius for organisation, and all the latent talents that modern orientalists such as yourselves (sometimes too generously) have recognised in him. Still, all these positive characteristics are not sufficient to explain the effects that followed.
    Mohammed was of course an Arab merchant, in no way educated in literary or religious matters. Suddenly, his personality takes over Arab literature, and his Quran is considered the ideal of literary perfection. An unexpected ‘human wisdom’ appears which is seen as gift of God by his followers, an unusual religious spirit which experiments with unusual phases of religious experience- visions which, unless one wishes to make their explanation even more complicated, must be recognised as real.
    All these things are phenomena which must be classified as a false mysticism by which satan, the ape of God, attempts with unction, pseudo-spiritual feelings, visions, and prophecies to imitate the super natural action of God. The words of St Peter concerning false teachers that I have sent below can literary be applied to Mohammed. The virtues of the sons of Satan shine brilliantly in Mohammed: PRIDE, LUST, LOVE OF EARTHLY RICHES- all these in opposition to evangelical virtues.

    I should like to dwell a little longer on the second conclusion: Islam is the actualisation of the kingdom of Satan and functions as an anti-church. The Church of Christ is always faithful to her own image. The church of satan does not have a positive and consistent unity of teaching but only a negative unity that is always dissolving into thin air. The kingdom of Satan is actually everything which the Church of Christ denies and combats, and it varies with time and place. The point of division between Church and anti-church is always dependence upon God or independence from him- through FAITH in the only mediator, JESUS CHRIST, the God – Man. ‘He who is not with Christ is against Christ’ ( Mt 12:30)
    Islam functions as an adversary of God’s kingdom; therefore it must be satan’s work. It is enough to glance at its doctrinal content to see how much it is the antithesis of Christian doctrine.
    No man, not even the most learned rationalist, could have elaborated a doctrine and a spirit so essentially anti-evangelical as that of Mohammed. THIS TOO CAN HAVE NO ADEQUATE EXPLANATION UNLESS WE ADMIT THAT SATAN IS THE AUTHOR OF ISLAM.

    Allah, the god if the quran is anti God, the enemy of the one true God, the God of the gospels. The Trinity of the Christians has no point of contact with the quranic Allah for he is excluded absolutely and explicitly from the Trinity, from the divine natural paternity ( the generation of the Word, Christ, the Son of God) and from adoptive fatherhood. The fatherhood of God has no place in Islam. The concept of the God of love is denied. The god of the quran bears all the personal characteristics of Satan. He is Satan , clothed with pseudo divine light, who has managed to attract a cult of divine adoration from a part of the human race. The awesome conclusion to all this is that millions of Muslims , without knowing it, adore Satan himself in their false god.

    THE INCARNATION

    After the Holy Trinity, the centre of Christian dogma, comes the Incarnation. Islam denies the Incarnation, both by its teaching on God and its teaching on Jesus Christ. It explicitly rules out the possibilty of any such teaching. The ‘Jesus’ of the Quran is the antithesis of the LIVING and TRUE JESUS of the gospels. To remove divinity from Jesus is to remove Jesus himself, because the human nature of Christ has no person other than the person of the divine Word. Whoever says that Christ is not the Son of God ‘is not from God’, as St John puts it: ‘Every spirit which will not say this of Jesus is not from God, but is the spirit of Antichrist’ (1Jn4:3)

    Islam bears the devils’s mark in its Christology as well. The Quran claims to be a successor to and subsitute for the Gospel. Therefore it can be nothing other than an anti-gospel. Christ said that his words would remain forever( Mt24:35;1, Pt1:25) but the Quran , in satanic wisdom, announces that it superseeds and completes the gospel, thus becoming its substitute. To the concept and teaching concerning the Church, namely that the Church is the mystical body of Christ, a visible, monarchico-hierarchical society, with authority and assistance given by Christ himself-the prolongation of his Incarnation- Islam is opposed as an antichurch organization, saturated with hatred for Christianity, in which there predominates, in function of a unifying chain, a very lively feeling which is basically racial and national- something quite the contrary of the universality and catholicity of Christianity. Islam is concious of having a pseudo vocation as a witness-bearing and missionary people of Satan’s action, in opposition to the conciousness within the Church of a divine mission to bring salvation and redemption to souls. Islam is an anti-church assembled about a book, the Quran, in antithesis to the true Church which is centred upon and unified in the person of Christ.

    Islam’s naturalism, so loudly proclaimed by encyclopeadists and rationalists like you, absolutely excludes any supernatural order. There can be no doctrine of grace in Islam because there is no divine filiation. Its ‘divine predetermination’ (taqdir) cancels out free will; nor does it leave any room for the DOCTRINE OF ORIGINAL SIN. The Christian struggle between spirit and flesh is quietly resolved by the compromise of sensual materialism. Still another antithesis is the ABSENCE in Islam of a piesthood and sacrifice, whereas the very life of Christianity is THE CROSS (Calvary ), the Mass, and eternal priesthood of Christ.

    The diabolical doctrine of the ‘holy war’ teaches that no mercy is to be shown the unbeliever ( Sura 8:58-60; Sura 47:4,22,37,etc) ”Do not show yourselves weak with your enemies, nor invite them to peace, while you have the advantage of them” is a direct contradiction to the meakness and sincerity of the gospel. Islam knows no pardoning of enemies nor good people’s power of intercession in favour of sinners. The Allah of the Quran has no mercy for the non-Muslim.

    Moreover, it denies the dogma of the salvific will of God and the universality of the redemption. Since Islam lacks the dogma of redemption, it also lacks the Christian attitude toward suffering and the expiatory and redemptive role of suffering.
    The absence of the divine imprint upon Islam and the presence of Satanic activity is attested by its fruits. Against the creative activity of God, Islam puts a destructive activity which hinders the religious, intellectual, and moral development of the individual and society. To the spiritual force that flows from the the message of Christ, a force that has raised up monuments of wisdom, science, and holiness, Islam sets in opposition the abasement of the intellect and the decay of morals. These are fruits of satan.
    The Muslim family can never know the peace of the Christian family. For the Christian, matrimony, for instance, is hallowed by sacramental grace. Islamic society will never know the providential social works of charity that issue from evangelical spirit. Nor will it ever have the conception of the state as a human society distinct from the Church. The theocracy which is Islam is in opposition to ‘render Ceaser the things that are Ceaser’s and to God the things that are God’s’ ( Mt22:21)

    Islam’s fruits are the satanic convulsions of fanaticism, alternating with a lethargic torpor- a passing prosperity followed by a long decadence. Islam is motionless and lifeless;it flees from any kind of development or progress. That is why between the teaching and work of Christ and the teaching and work of Mohammed, there is the difference between life and death. Christ is life and satan is the adversary of all life, the author of death ( Jn8:44). There is the difference between love-for God is LOVE- and giving, and satan, who was the first one to envy and the first egotist.
    If we leave aside the question of personal responsibility, which God alone can judge, Mohammed was an instrument of Satan. In Islam Satan organized an antichurch in which all the opposites of the gospel message are gathered together with an energy which transcends all human natural activity. Islam is therefore, one of the gravest, most baneful and dangerous actualisations of satan, an attacker and destroyer of the reign of Christ.

    I told one of you of a story the other day of a remark at the Library made by a former Muslim who said that she had been struck by the resemblance between Nazism and Islam; when she read Hitler’s book Mein Kampf, she felt as though she was reading the Quran.

    Ladies and gentlemen,I rest my case.

  52. PD
    Posted May 7, 2011 at 6:42 PM | Permalink

    From: Redulla, Nestor E. [JNJPH]
    Subject: FW: [usc-ches] From the heart of a Muslim – Tawfik Hamid
    To:
    Date: Thursday, 21 October, 2010, 3:20 PM

    “I am a Muslim by faith…. a Christian by spirit….a Jew by heart….and above all I am a human being.”
    Dr. Tawfik Hamid, Egyptian scholar and author

    I was born a Muslim and lived all my life as a follower of Islam. After the barbaric terrorist attacks done by the hands of my fellow Muslims everywhere on this globe, and after the too many violent acts by Islamists in many parts of the world, I feel responsible as a Muslim and as a human being, to speak out and tell the truth to protect the world and Muslims as well from a coming catastrophe and war of civilizations.

    I have to admit that our current Islamic teaching creates violence and hatred toward Non-Muslims. We Muslims are the ones who need to change. Until now we have accepted polygamy, the beating of women by men, and killing those who convert from Islam to other religions.

    We have never had a clear and strong stand against the concept of slavery or wars, to spread our religion and to subjugate others to Islam and force them to pay a humiliating tax called Jizia. We ask others to respect our religion while all the time we curse non-Muslims loudly (in Arabic) in our Friday prayers in the Mosques.

    What message do we convey to our children when we call the Jews “Descendants of the pigs and monkeys.” Is this a message of love and peace, or a message of hate?

    I have been into churches and synagogues where they were praying for Muslims. While all the time we curse them, and teach our generations to call them infidels, and to hate them.

    We immediately jump in a ‘knee jerk reflex’ to defend Prophet Mohammad when someone accuses him of being a pedophile while, at the same time, we are proud with the story in our Islamic books, that he married a young girl seven years old (Aisha) when he was above 50 years old.

    I am sad to say that many, if not most of us, rejoiced in happiness after September 11th and after many other terror attacks.

    Muslims denounce these attacks to look good in front of the media, but we condone the Islamic terrorists and sympathize with their cause. Till now our ‘reputable’ top religious authorities have never issued a Fatwa or religious statement to proclaim Bin Laden as an apostate, while an author, like Rushdie, was declared an apostate who should be killed according to Islamic Shariia law just for writing a book criticizing Islam.

    Muslims demonstrated to get more religious rights as we did in France to stop the ban on the Hejab (Head Scarf), while we did not demonstrate with such passion and in such numbers against the terrorist murders.

    It is our absolute silence against the terrorists that gives the energy to these terrorists to continue doing their evil acts. We Muslims need to stop blaming our problems on others or on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. As a matter of honesty, Israel is the only light of democracy, civilization, and human rights in the whole Middle East .

    We kicked out the Jews with no compensation or mercy from most of the Arab countries to make them “Jews-Free countries” while Israel accepted more than a million Arabs to live there, have its nationality, and enjoy their rights as human beings. In Israel , women can not be beaten legally by men, and any person can change his/her belief system with no fear of being killed by the Islamic law of ‘Apostasy,’ while in our Islamic world people do not enjoy any of these rights. I agree that the ‘Palestinians’ suffer, but they suffer because of their corrupt leaders and not because of Israel .

    It is not common to see Arabs who live in Israel leaving to live in the Arab world. On the other hand, we used to see thousands of Palestinians going to work with happiness in Israel , its ‘enemy’. If Israel treats Arabs badly as some people claim, surely we would have seen the opposite happening.

    We Muslims need to admit our problems and face them. Only then we can treat them and start a new era to live in harmony with human mankind. Our religious leaders have to show a clear and very strong stand against polygamy, pedophilia,slavery, killing those who convert from Islam to other religions, beating of women by men, and declaring wars on non-Muslims to spread Islam.

    Then, and only then, do we have the right to ask others to respect our religion. The time has come to stop our hypocrisy and say it openly: ‘We, Muslims have to Change.’

    Tawfik Hamid

  53. Abu Faris
    Posted May 8, 2011 at 8:33 AM | Permalink

    Tell me, PD, when they have you locked down in your padded cell, do you:

    (a) rock backwards and forwards, dribbling;

    or

    (b) engage in some sort of art therapy – perhaps basket-weaving?

  54. pdeo
    Posted May 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM | Permalink

    This reaction appears to be a commonality with some,not all, Muslims who resort to threats and subkindergarten psychobable as a dubious alternative to a civilised debate.
    My Question is as Muslim, are you sure about your salvation?
    Jesus said ‘I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.’

  55. Posted October 14, 2011 at 1:24 PM | Permalink

    Female Quran tutoring – visit http://www.quranskype.com ,online quran learning

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