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	<description>Heresy is another word for freedom of thought</description>
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		<title>By: daud</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/513#comment-25445</link>
		<dc:creator>daud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 00:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can find comprehensive proof of his view the quran was created and of his evil views associating Allah with partners Al-Qadaa wal-Qadar. Not to mention his dodgy creed when it comes to ahaad hadith.  The man has spawned an orwelian nightmare of a ht super police state imposing their deviant beliefs on the muslim masses. Allah forbid
http://www.asharis.com/creed/articles/cgwhh-the-ashari-creed-and-20th-century-thinkers-and-political-activists-part-1---the-aqidah-of-taqi-ud-din-an-nabahani.cfm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can find comprehensive proof of his view the quran was created and of his evil views associating Allah with partners Al-Qadaa wal-Qadar. Not to mention his dodgy creed when it comes to ahaad hadith.  The man has spawned an orwelian nightmare of a ht super police state imposing their deviant beliefs on the muslim masses. Allah forbid<br />
<a href="http://www.asharis.com/creed/articles/cgwhh-the-ashari-creed-and-20th-century-thinkers-and-political-activists-part-1---the-aqidah-of-taqi-ud-din-an-nabahani.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.asharis.com/creed/articles/cgwhh-the-ashari-creed-and-20th-century-thinkers-and-political-activists-part-1&#8212;the-aqidah-of-taqi-ud-din-an-nabahani.cfm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sheikh yar boothi</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/513#comment-24683</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheikh yar boothi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the comments and some parts of the article are baseless, I think this is the decline the sheikh was talking about in man. Instead of trying to understand or at least make excuses for fellow muslims, here we are pointing fingers.... Look to your self and ask what am I doing to help the revival of the ummah? Or am I just a dumb muslim who knows nothing and believes the revival will come when usa allows it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the comments and some parts of the article are baseless, I think this is the decline the sheikh was talking about in man. Instead of trying to understand or at least make excuses for fellow muslims, here we are pointing fingers&#8230;. Look to your self and ask what am I doing to help the revival of the ummah? Or am I just a dumb muslim who knows nothing and believes the revival will come when usa allows it?</p>
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		<title>By: Abdullah</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/513#comment-22937</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 07:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@///he maintained his Arab centric socialist agenda but presented it in Islamic language by enveloping his Arab super-nation state concept for a super “Islamic” State which must concentrate on the Arab speaking Muslims //// Socialist agenda? He has talked about systems of Islam in detail akhi! What are you talking about? As far as Arab Nationalism is concerned, your allegation is again incorrect, Hizb ut-Tahrir is actively seeking to establish Khilafah in countries like Pakistan, Turkey etc.

///Some have commented on him being Mutazilite in this regard. The ramification being not recognizing, but rather criticizing the orthodox and Sufi teachings of his heritage such as the famous Sheikh Yusuf al-Nabhani the orthodox Shafi’I and Sufi./// Then you must read his Book As-Shaksiya Al-Islamiya VOL:1 in which he has established in detail about the incorrectness of Muatazali views. Sheikh was not a Muatazila neither he supported it in any form.

@Writer: It is better you expose the plans of Kuffar and work for the revival of Ummah, instead of forging false allegations about those who are working for the revival of Islam and those who have passed away working... 

Wsalaam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@///he maintained his Arab centric socialist agenda but presented it in Islamic language by enveloping his Arab super-nation state concept for a super “Islamic” State which must concentrate on the Arab speaking Muslims //// Socialist agenda? He has talked about systems of Islam in detail akhi! What are you talking about? As far as Arab Nationalism is concerned, your allegation is again incorrect, Hizb ut-Tahrir is actively seeking to establish Khilafah in countries like Pakistan, Turkey etc.</p>
<p>///Some have commented on him being Mutazilite in this regard. The ramification being not recognizing, but rather criticizing the orthodox and Sufi teachings of his heritage such as the famous Sheikh Yusuf al-Nabhani the orthodox Shafi’I and Sufi./// Then you must read his Book As-Shaksiya Al-Islamiya VOL:1 in which he has established in detail about the incorrectness of Muatazali views. Sheikh was not a Muatazila neither he supported it in any form.</p>
<p>@Writer: It is better you expose the plans of Kuffar and work for the revival of Ummah, instead of forging false allegations about those who are working for the revival of Islam and those who have passed away working&#8230; </p>
<p>Wsalaam</p>
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		<title>By: Abdullah</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/513#comment-22936</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 07:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Desperately seeking : Absolutely rubbish you are talking about!

@Wajid: Can you give reference to a single book of Nabhani which talks about allowing porn or seeing woman naked without Hijaab?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Desperately seeking : Absolutely rubbish you are talking about!</p>
<p>@Wajid: Can you give reference to a single book of Nabhani which talks about allowing porn or seeing woman naked without Hijaab?</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Faris</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/513#comment-18119</link>
		<dc:creator>Abu Faris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 15:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Although his stance on the companions like Muawiyah (ra) being corrupt, and Aisha (ra) as being a rebel (baghiya) are not ones which Muslims like.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

These are perfectly acceptable stances (with certain provisions and nuances) from the Shi&#039;a perspective.

Muawiyah was a perfect bastard, answered beautifully by one of the Party of Imam &#039;Ali in the following way:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Zirar bin Zamra Zibabi, known as Zirar Suda&#039;i, was a companion of Imam Ali. When, after the martyrdom of Imam Ali, he went to Damascus, Muawiya called him and asked him to say something about Imam Ali. Zirar, knowing that Muawiya hated Imam Ali intensely tried to avoid this topic, but Muawiya forced him to speak. Thereupon, Zirar said: &quot;O Amir, I had often seen Imam Ali in the depth of nights, when people were either sleeping or engrossed in amusements, he would be standing in the niche of the Masjid, with tears in his eyes and he would beseech Allah to help him maintain a pious, a virtuous and a noble character and to forsake the world. He would then address the world, saying &#039;O vicious world! Be away from me, why do you come in front of me like this ? Do you want to allure me ? Allah forbid that I should be allured and tempted by you and your pleasures. It is not possible. Go and try your allurements on somebody else. I do not desire to own you and do not want to have you. I have forsaken you thrice. It is like divorcing a woman thrice after which act she cannot be taken back as a wife. The life of pleasures that you offer is of a very little duration. There is no real importance in what you offer, the desire of holding you is an insult and a humiliation to sober minds. Sad is the plight of those who want to acquire you. They do not provide for the Hereafter. They have to pass through a long journey over a very difficult road towards a sat destination&#039;. Zirar says that when he stopped, there were tears in the eyes of Muawiya who said, &#039;May peace of Allah be upon Abul Hasan Ali bin Abi Talib, he was undoubtedly like that. Now tell me, Zirar! How do you feel his separa- tion?&#039; Zirar replied, &quot;My sorrow and grief is like that of woman whose only child has been murdered in her lap&quot;. With this remark Zirar walked out of the court of Muawiya and left the city. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

&#039;Aisha was not a rebel - but she did act in some unfortunate ways towards those who were closer to the Prophet than any others - including her step-daughter, Fatima and her family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Although his stance on the companions like Muawiyah (ra) being corrupt, and Aisha (ra) as being a rebel (baghiya) are not ones which Muslims like.</p></blockquote>
<p>These are perfectly acceptable stances (with certain provisions and nuances) from the Shi&#8217;a perspective.</p>
<p>Muawiyah was a perfect bastard, answered beautifully by one of the Party of Imam &#8216;Ali in the following way:</p>
<blockquote><p>Zirar bin Zamra Zibabi, known as Zirar Suda&#8217;i, was a companion of Imam Ali. When, after the martyrdom of Imam Ali, he went to Damascus, Muawiya called him and asked him to say something about Imam Ali. Zirar, knowing that Muawiya hated Imam Ali intensely tried to avoid this topic, but Muawiya forced him to speak. Thereupon, Zirar said: &#8220;O Amir, I had often seen Imam Ali in the depth of nights, when people were either sleeping or engrossed in amusements, he would be standing in the niche of the Masjid, with tears in his eyes and he would beseech Allah to help him maintain a pious, a virtuous and a noble character and to forsake the world. He would then address the world, saying &#8216;O vicious world! Be away from me, why do you come in front of me like this ? Do you want to allure me ? Allah forbid that I should be allured and tempted by you and your pleasures. It is not possible. Go and try your allurements on somebody else. I do not desire to own you and do not want to have you. I have forsaken you thrice. It is like divorcing a woman thrice after which act she cannot be taken back as a wife. The life of pleasures that you offer is of a very little duration. There is no real importance in what you offer, the desire of holding you is an insult and a humiliation to sober minds. Sad is the plight of those who want to acquire you. They do not provide for the Hereafter. They have to pass through a long journey over a very difficult road towards a sat destination&#8217;. Zirar says that when he stopped, there were tears in the eyes of Muawiya who said, &#8216;May peace of Allah be upon Abul Hasan Ali bin Abi Talib, he was undoubtedly like that. Now tell me, Zirar! How do you feel his separa- tion?&#8217; Zirar replied, &#8220;My sorrow and grief is like that of woman whose only child has been murdered in her lap&#8221;. With this remark Zirar walked out of the court of Muawiya and left the city. </p></blockquote>
<p>&#8216;Aisha was not a rebel &#8211; but she did act in some unfortunate ways towards those who were closer to the Prophet than any others &#8211; including her step-daughter, Fatima and her family.</p>
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		<title>By: Wajid</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/513#comment-18106</link>
		<dc:creator>Wajid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 05:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read any of his books Fatima and you will see mad quotes about all sorta of things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read any of his books Fatima and you will see mad quotes about all sorta of things.</p>
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		<title>By: Fatima</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/513#comment-18103</link>
		<dc:creator>Fatima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 00:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe some references would be useful for all of these assertions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe some references would be useful for all of these assertions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Desperately seeking</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/513#comment-7544</link>
		<dc:creator>Desperately seeking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He wasn&#039;t that bad. He allowed porn as long as it was two dimensional - give him credit for that. 

He was also fairly liberal when it came to asking random girls to take off their clothes if you were interested in marrying them. He also had some interesting perspectives on spying on girls that you fancied - all in all quite ok if you are a young lad needing some alternative &quot;islamic relief&quot;....

He also did enjoy a good cigarette - Marlboro or Dunhill depending on the different narrations. 

Although his stance on the companions like Muawiyah (ra) being corrupt, and Aisha (ra) as being a rebel (baghiya) are not ones which Muslims like.

He did also not take too well to Sunni beliefs in exchatology and the return of Christ though he did firmly beleive that he would take over the world in the promised Caliphate state.... 

I suppose he was a bit weird....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He wasn&#8217;t that bad. He allowed porn as long as it was two dimensional &#8211; give him credit for that. </p>
<p>He was also fairly liberal when it came to asking random girls to take off their clothes if you were interested in marrying them. He also had some interesting perspectives on spying on girls that you fancied &#8211; all in all quite ok if you are a young lad needing some alternative &#8220;islamic relief&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>He also did enjoy a good cigarette &#8211; Marlboro or Dunhill depending on the different narrations. </p>
<p>Although his stance on the companions like Muawiyah (ra) being corrupt, and Aisha (ra) as being a rebel (baghiya) are not ones which Muslims like.</p>
<p>He did also not take too well to Sunni beliefs in exchatology and the return of Christ though he did firmly beleive that he would take over the world in the promised Caliphate state&#8230;. </p>
<p>I suppose he was a bit weird&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Zanzibariboy</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/513#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>Zanzibariboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 10:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article...this is sure to annoy the HT crew, who wont take up the challenge to defend their founder due to the fact that he is undefendable.  It is hard to ignore the fact that Nabhani was heavily influenced by socialism, i mean what is Islamic about military coups?  For this reason, amongst many, i believe that HT cannot even call themselves an Islamic party.  they are a reinvented Arab socialist party, always have been and always will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article&#8230;this is sure to annoy the HT crew, who wont take up the challenge to defend their founder due to the fact that he is undefendable.  It is hard to ignore the fact that Nabhani was heavily influenced by socialism, i mean what is Islamic about military coups?  For this reason, amongst many, i believe that HT cannot even call themselves an Islamic party.  they are a reinvented Arab socialist party, always have been and always will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Raziq</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/513#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>Raziq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 21:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why won&#039;t HT wont defend its founder?

Abd al-Azeez or any other HT/AM want to take up the challenge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why won&#8217;t HT wont defend its founder?</p>
<p>Abd al-Azeez or any other HT/AM want to take up the challenge?</p>
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		<title>By: Ibn Khaldun</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/513#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>Ibn Khaldun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 16:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic and very accurate analysis of one of the Godfathers of Islamism. Interestingly HT has not managed to move on from hins 195os middle east mindset and have added nothing of significance to his original ideas, highlighting the cultish nature of the organisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic and very accurate analysis of one of the Godfathers of Islamism. Interestingly HT has not managed to move on from hins 195os middle east mindset and have added nothing of significance to his original ideas, highlighting the cultish nature of the organisation.</p>
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