Comments on: Gita Sahgal Blows the Whistle on Amnesty and CagePrisoners http://www.spittoon.org/archives/4914 Heresy is another word for freedom of thought Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:32:51 +0000 hourly 1 By: bananabrain http://www.spittoon.org/archives/4914#comment-15834 bananabrain Mon, 08 Feb 2010 11:28:27 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=4914#comment-15834 no surprises to see that amnesty have chosen to react by suspending her. b'shalom bananabrain no surprises to see that amnesty have chosen to react by suspending her.

b’shalom

bananabrain

]]> By: Abu Faris http://www.spittoon.org/archives/4914#comment-15833 Abu Faris Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:10:39 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=4914#comment-15833 I especially adore the following praise-singing from Ridley for Galloway (Ridley's "very close friend") in the Iranian state's English propaganda rag, the <i>Tehran Times</i>. Ridley is keen to condemn the regime of Mubarak in Egypt: <blockquote>He [Gorgeous George] was roughly manhandled by Hosni Mubarak's secret police -- probably the very same secret police who tried to punch me in the face and rip off my hijab</blockquote> Tried to punch her in the face (but failed); tried to rip off her hijab (but failed) - the <i>fiends</i>! Do they not know who Ridley is??? Oddly, however, Ridley has not a word to say of her patrons, the Iranian regime, and their odious, death-dealing, violent treatment of any and all opposition to their fascist rule. Well, there's a surprise. More idiocy in a similar vein from Ridley to be had at: http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=212299 I especially adore the following praise-singing from Ridley for Galloway (Ridley’s “very close friend”) in the Iranian state’s English propaganda rag, the Tehran Times.

Ridley is keen to condemn the regime of Mubarak in Egypt:

He [Gorgeous George] was roughly manhandled by Hosni Mubarak’s secret police — probably the very same secret police who tried to punch me in the face and rip off my hijab

Tried to punch her in the face (but failed); tried to rip off her hijab (but failed) – the fiends! Do they not know who Ridley is???

Oddly, however, Ridley has not a word to say of her patrons, the Iranian regime, and their odious, death-dealing, violent treatment of any and all opposition to their fascist rule.

Well, there’s a surprise.

More idiocy in a similar vein from Ridley to be had at:

http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=212299

]]> By: Un:dhimmi http://www.spittoon.org/archives/4914#comment-15832 Un:dhimmi Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:48:02 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=4914#comment-15832 <i>"When opposing human rights abuses in Guantanamo, why is it necessary to champion and partner with the advocates of jihadi terrorism?"</i> Good luck in getting an answer from La Ridley on that one - she's on point duty spinning for the British Jihad industry, not Amnesty ;) “When opposing human rights abuses in Guantanamo, why is it necessary to champion and partner with the advocates of jihadi terrorism?”

Good luck in getting an answer from La Ridley on that one – she’s on point duty spinning for the British Jihad industry, not Amnesty ;)

]]> By: Faisal http://www.spittoon.org/archives/4914#comment-15831 Faisal Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:42:06 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=4914#comment-15831 Yvonne, I went to the CagePrisoners website, as you advised, and came across this: http://www.cageprisoners.com/articles.php?id=22926 It's an interview of the jihadist cleric Anwar al-Awlaki by Moazzam Begg. Begg asks Awlaki no difficult questions, in fact he is completely in fawning supplicant mode. Perhaps you could answer this one question, Yvonne, since Amnesty International have so far failed to do so: When opposing human rights abuses in Guantanamo, why is it necessary to champion and partner with the advocates of jihadi terrorism? Yvonne, I went to the CagePrisoners website, as you advised, and came across this:

http://www.cageprisoners.com/articles.php?id=22926

It’s an interview of the jihadist cleric Anwar al-Awlaki by Moazzam Begg. Begg asks Awlaki no difficult questions, in fact he is completely in fawning supplicant mode.

Perhaps you could answer this one question, Yvonne, since Amnesty International have so far failed to do so:

When opposing human rights abuses in Guantanamo, why is it necessary to champion and partner with the advocates of jihadi terrorism?

]]> By: Alec http://www.spittoon.org/archives/4914#comment-15829 Alec Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:18:35 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=4914#comment-15829 Same old Yvonne. Arrogant know-all before, arrogant know-all now. Nice time in Egypt, Yvonne? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT4tk2RiNIo&feature=player_embedded Can you tell me what they're chanting at 2 min 17 sec? It sounds like فلسطين ! فلسطين ! معك كلنا الى يوم الدين Falisteen! Falisteen! ma’ak kulna ila youma deen". Same old Yvonne. Arrogant know-all before, arrogant know-all now.

Nice time in Egypt, Yvonne?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT4tk2RiNIo&feature=player_embedded

Can you tell me what they’re chanting at 2 min 17 sec? It sounds like فلسطين ! فلسطين ! معك كلنا الى يوم الدين Falisteen! Falisteen! ma’ak kulna ila youma deen”.

]]> By: Abu Faris http://www.spittoon.org/archives/4914#comment-15828 Abu Faris Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:47:44 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=4914#comment-15828 <blockquote>he’s a great supporter of women and a promoter of their rights.</blockquote> In much the same way that the Taliban (the cheerleaders of which you and and Begg are) are great supporters of women and promoters of their rights?

he’s a great supporter of women and a promoter of their rights.

In much the same way that the Taliban (the cheerleaders of which you and and Begg are) are great supporters of women and promoters of their rights?

]]> By: Abu Faris http://www.spittoon.org/archives/4914#comment-15827 Abu Faris Mon, 08 Feb 2010 08:06:20 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=4914#comment-15827 I especially enjoy the amazing copy produced by La Ridley in the <i>Tehran Times</i>. Her copy there confirms we are in the presence of a great journalist. One clearly unwilling to sell her skills to a tawdry clerical fascist regime guilty of mass human rights violations and committed to women's rights. I believe they provide her with the crayons and everything. I especially enjoy the amazing copy produced by La Ridley in the Tehran Times.

Her copy there confirms we are in the presence of a great journalist. One clearly unwilling to sell her skills to a tawdry clerical fascist regime guilty of mass human rights violations and committed to women’s rights. I believe they provide her with the crayons and everything.

]]> By: Un:dhimmi http://www.spittoon.org/archives/4914#comment-15826 Un:dhimmi Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:17:47 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=4914#comment-15826 You must have rattled their cages, if the jihad-supporting Queen of Stockholm's writing in... :) <i>"I am a committed feminist and a Muslim as well as being a patron of Cageprisoners which is an excellent organisation and resource used and respected by international lawyers, human rights organisations and activists."</i> Don't be coy, Yvonne. You neglected to mention that you're also on the <a href="http://www.presstv.ir/programs/detail.aspx?sectionid=3510509" rel="nofollow"> payroll</a> of the Iranian state. You must have rattled their cages, if the jihad-supporting Queen of Stockholm’s writing in… :)

“I am a committed feminist and a Muslim as well as being a patron of Cageprisoners which is an excellent organisation and resource used and respected by international lawyers, human rights organisations and activists.”

Don’t be coy, Yvonne. You neglected to mention that you’re also on the payroll of the Iranian state.

]]> By: Yvonne Ridley http://www.spittoon.org/archives/4914#comment-15825 Yvonne Ridley Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:18:51 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=4914#comment-15825 What a pity Gita didn’t feel able to raise this issue direct with Moazzam Begg. If she had instead of briefing against him, she would have discovered that he’s a great supporter of women and a promoter of their rights. There is a campaign underway to demonise him and I would have thought, coming from such an excellent human rights background, Gita would have stopped and asked questions first from the man himself instead of joining in the witch-hunt. I am a committed feminist and a Muslim as well as being a patron of Cageprisoners which is an excellent organisation and resource used and respected by international lawyers, human rights organisations and activists. The very last thing Cageprisoners wants to do is silence her – she should now take the opportunity to meet with Moazzam Begg and air her concerns – real or imagined – face-to-face. I am sure he would welcome the opportunity for some real transparency. But at the moment he is the victim in all of this not the person who went briefing the media with wild allegations … allegations which I note are now repeated in this forum without any reference to facts. Are we dispensing with the whole concept of innocent until proven otherwise? The US and the UK have had a chance to charge him but they didn’t – ask yourself why? Or are we opting for trial by media these days? Moazzam has, at last, been able to give his initial response through the Cageprisoners website – if you want to make a more informed judgment I suggest you go to http://www.cageprisoners.com What a pity Gita didn’t feel able to raise this issue direct with Moazzam Begg. If she had instead of briefing against him, she would have discovered that he’s a great supporter of women and a promoter of their rights.
There is a campaign underway to demonise him and I would have thought, coming from such an excellent human rights background, Gita would have stopped and asked questions first from the man himself instead of joining in the witch-hunt.
I am a committed feminist and a Muslim as well as being a patron of Cageprisoners which is an excellent organisation and resource used and respected by international lawyers, human rights organisations and activists.
The very last thing Cageprisoners wants to do is silence her – she should now take the opportunity to meet with Moazzam Begg and air her concerns – real or imagined – face-to-face. I am sure he would welcome the opportunity for some real transparency.
But at the moment he is the victim in all of this not the person who went briefing the media with wild allegations … allegations which I note are now repeated in this forum without any reference to facts. Are we dispensing with the whole concept of innocent until proven otherwise?
The US and the UK have had a chance to charge him but they didn’t – ask yourself why? Or are we opting for trial by media these days?
Moazzam has, at last, been able to give his initial response through the Cageprisoners website – if you want to make a more informed judgment I suggest you go to http://www.cageprisoners.com

]]> By: Dr Aisha Gill http://www.spittoon.org/archives/4914#comment-15824 Dr Aisha Gill Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:43:30 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=4914#comment-15824 Shame on Amnesty International for not heeding the advice of Gita Saghal - a leading human rights defender. Shame on Amnesty International for not heeding the advice of Gita Saghal – a leading human rights defender.

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