Radicalised in London
Probes into the movements of the ‘Detroit 253′ bomber, 23 year old Nigerian student Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, have shown links to radical Islamic groups in the UK. They also show that he made a number of visits to East London Mosque.
The New York Times also reports Abdulmutallab studied at the University College London between 2005 and 2008 where he was president of the UCL Islamic Society.
From the Independent:
Security agencies in Britain are investigating reports that Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the young Nigerian accused of attempting to blow up a transatlantic airliner, contacted radical Muslims while studying at university in London, The Independent understands.
Mohammed Mutallab, a cousin of the arrested man, has claimed that the 23-year-old came under the influence of extremist groups while in this country, and associates claim he visited the East London Mosque, which has attracted criticism for hosting Muslim hardline preachers, three times.
The same Indy report also mentions that Adbulmutallab was not in London when East London Mosque was the venue for a “video lecture” by Anwar al-Awlaki.
However, Abdulmutallab was not in the UK at the time, and the mosque authorities stressed that they dissociated it from al-Awlaki’s views at the event, which was organised by an outside organisation.
But that does not let the East London Mosque completely off the hook.
There are two recorded Awlaki video lectures which were held at the East London Mosque/London Muslim Centre this year. The Independent is probably referring to this one. The “outside organisation” which organised the event in this case was Noor Pro Media, which continues to organise lectures by known Jihadists at the LMC.
The notion that East London Mosque should not be held accountable in any way simply because the Awlaki lectures held on its premises were arranged by “an outside organisation” is a laughably facile excuse.
Rather than ban Noor Pro Media, East London Mosque continues to allow them to book their facilities for an event on New Year’s Day 2010 where, no doubt, they will sell Awlaki DVDs on the premises of the London Muslim Centre. And no doubt there are more planned in 2010.
And amidst all this activity in these hotbeds of Islamist radicalisation, Muhammad Abdul Bari, Chair of the ELM and the LMC continues to be lionised and celebrated by the House of Commons.
What dangerously perverse times we live in.
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UCL Islamic Society’s website has seemingly and conveniently disappeared of late. However, FOSIS have issued a dissembling statement, full of epic self contradictions – denying that any Islamic Society in Britain had a hand in radicalising the terrorist; whilst at one and the same time claiming that not enough is known about the terrorist’s background. Go figure:
http://fosis.org.uk/media/press-releases/647-fosis-responds-to-attempted-terror-attack-on-northwest-airlines-flight-253
FOSIS are scrambling for cover. Issuing a denial while pretending to care.
FOSIS is a Muslim Brotherhood front group, which tours extreme pro-Jihadist speakers around students unions in universities up and down the country, lionises Al Qaradawi and is just a Hamas fanclub, basically.
Bunch of fucking scumbags.
Catch JI Islamist clowns blundering idiotically around the stage in their Islamist clown cars, denying all relationship between ELM and jihadi terror, here:
http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/12/28/east-london-mosque-linked-to-nigerian-aeroplane-bomber/
Spot, in particular, Gary – late of this parish.
Gary and his ELM/IFE/Jamaat goons are textbook Jamaati genocide deniers. They don’t have a hope in hell of getting to power in their mother countries (Bangladesh and Pakistan) but they are empowered here in the UK by successive clueless governments – to the point where they now have enough electoral clout in the East End to push people around, sit on civil society committees and climbing up the civil service professional ladder.
Oh guys, before you get all excited, the Indy also published this:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-radical-worshippers-who-harm-liberal-mosque-1852093.html
And the Torygraph published this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/6900621/East-London-mosque-condemns-Umar-Farouk-Abdulmutallab.html
Now you can have your collective coming session, use a tissue…
Does this mean every Mosque this idiot visited is ‘guilty due to attendance’ it is clear that your witch hunting object is purely to undermine the renowned undertakings and successes of this beautiful Masjid, May Allah Allah (swt) protect and preserve it.
How many “beautiful Masjids” in Great Britain host events of video lectures by Anwar al-Awlaki and are closely associated with Jamaat-e-Islam?
The NYT says this man was the president of the UCL ISOC.
Can this be confirmed? I have tried contacting FOSIS but they aren’t answering phone calls.
Yes, it is confirmed.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/world-news/airline-bomber-warns-of-further-attacks-1.994907
Here is a press release from the Muslim Safety Forum. The MSF is an “advisory body for the Police Service and has signed a working protocol with the Metropolitan Police, British Transport Police & ACPO to build better police / community relations.”
But basically it’s an ELM group headed by Hamas fanboys: Abdurahman Jafar and formerly Azad Ali.
Spin and tripe:
Thanks for the links word-up. Did you notice this turgid section from the Indy article?
No suggestion that Noor Pro Media will air more Awlaki lectures at the LMC at the January 1 2010 event. But no denials that it will not be selling Awlaki DVDs either.
Hey you excitable bunch, you called the FOSIS office, and yet they’ve issued a press release. You guys are really desperate on pinning someone on something aren’t you?
http://fosis.org.uk/media/press-releases/649-fosis-comments-on-media-reports-regarding-terror-suspect
FOSIS comments on media reports regarding terror suspect
Tuesday, 29 December 2009
Faisal Hanjra, spokesman for FOSIS said today, “As more information emerges regarding the transatlantic suspect, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, FOSIS is shocked to learn that the same individual held a position as President of the Islamic Society at UCL between 2006 and 2007. There was nothing in his behaviour during this time that would indicate that he would commit these alleged acts. During his tenure as President, the Islamic Society forged closer relationships between other student groups, of all faiths and none, the College and the Student Union. At this time the Islamic Society was also very active in raising money for a range of charities as well as helping out in good causes. Fellow students and staff are shocked and horrified at the arrest of someone who was considered engaging, friendly and keen to seek common cause with all people. If these allegations prove true then many fellow students would undoubtedly feel this to be a breakdown in trust. He left UCL in June 2008 and ceased contact with friends and colleagues in London.
He added, “FOSIS and UCL Islamic Society urges to come forward all those who can help the relevant authorities with their investigation into this matter. The family of the suspect has already raised concerns over his past behaviour and with reports that the suspect was in Yemen recently. It is crucial for the investigation to discover the activities of the suspect since he left university over a year ago.”
He further added, “The spotlight will now naturally fall on Islamic Societies and Muslim students and we must resist the criminalisation and labelling of Muslims as a suspect community. Terrorism is a global phenomenon and transcends international boundaries; Muslim students are equally concerned at this scourge and will continue to play their part in speaking out against terrorism. Our own work continues in dealing with issues surrounding extremism with the government, the National Union of Students and other relevant organisations. Islamic Societies across the country continue to play a crucial role in engaging Muslim students and building positive cross-campus relations. British Muslim students go on to make positive contributions to British society, and their experiences are nurtured at university. There remains no evidence to suggest that Muslim students are at particular risk of radicalisation or that university campuses are vulnerable to people seeking to recruit to this extreme ideology.”
haha now all we need is “word-up” to post a mendacious and fawning press release from the Jamaati controllers of East London Mosque saying how they abhor terrorism and are against extremism, and we will have the full gamut of post-terror-incident Islamist knee-jerk reactions.
But we know it’s all bollocks.
word-up: Will you be attending the Yasir Qadhi, Abdul Majid Ali Hasan and Hamza Tzortzis lecture event organised by Noor Pro Media at the LMC on January 1st? Go on, you know you want to.
Oh Effendi, your sarcasm knows no bounds. You’ll find that the East London Mosque has already issued what you call their ‘knee-jerk’ reaction and you guys are now poring over every syllable to find fault with them. I suppose its what keeps you time wasters in business.
Will I be going to see Yasir Qadhi and his unlikely lads at the LMC? Nah, I’ll probably nursing my hangover from the night before. I’d rather go and listen to the claptrap you’re mate Melanie “Obama is a Muslim” Phillips has to say.
word-up, you can be sure that it’s not just us who will be poring through every mendacious press release that East London Mosque will be issuing as a result of the links to the Detroit bomber. MI5 and other UK security forces are sifting through these links now even as we speak.
And you be sure that these facts will be perculating into the public domain over the next few weeks. So there will be plenty of nervous Jamaati types at the ELM. And that should keep you and your friends in the Muslim Security Forum busy concocting more press releases blaming this increased security attention on “Islamophobia”.
I suppose you already have all the Awlaki DVDs in your collection to show your friends what a good little jihadi you are, which is why you will be missing the Noor Pro Media event while nursing your hangover. No “munafiq” you.
Wow, Word-Up! You mean you are one of the “useful idiots” and not a Muslim at all?
Shouldn’t you be spending the New Year on a beach in southern Jordan, on “hunger strike” with all the other Galloway clowns and twitching, humourless big-bearded ones?
Nothing puts the fear of God into the Jamaati goons at the ELM than being read the Terrorist Act followed by an investigation. Hence the flurry of “We don’t like extremism” press releases.
Farrris am back
You guys amuse me indeed…..gosh stop having hissy fits guys and start showing some concrete proof that this guy was radicalised in London…no cant….then shut your pie hole.
Do you have the evidence he wasn’t? If not, shut your glitter-hole, Gary.
Hey I am not the one that needs to……if you guys have got a witch hunt against the ELM…then you provide the evidence and show us the link…..apart for the fact that he might of been a worshipper there. Gosh what a silly comment…its like telling a witch who is not a witch “prove you are a witch”…
Effendi, Abu Faris and co. Losers.
Oooh, I’m shaking!! Did I hit a raw nerve? Awww, poor poor putty cat.
You’re so petulant, you’re boring me.
I may be a useful idiot, but you’re nothing but a school bully picking on the kid with the foreign sounding name.
I don’t have to be a Muslim to show that you guys are just plain mean.
You guys may be having a group wanking session, in the hope that the security services will start picking on your prize, phantom targets. But they won’t.
They’ve got better things to do. Finding real terrorists. You know, the ones who actually blow things up.
Sad.
P.s. Abu Faris, you and Galloway are in the same boat. Whining miserable toads.
Oh look, it’s Gary!
*Settles back with hobnobs and cocoa to watch Gary make an utter tit of himself again in broad public. It’s like Morcombe and Wise; but without the wise.*
Hey, Gazzer, how about answering the questions I asked last night on Harry’s Place?:
Why do you lend your support to a group of Islamists who have adulated a known ideologue of al-Qaida and terror and whose own Islamist organisation, JI, was intimately and bloodily involved in the mass-murder of millions in Bangladesh?
I notice you are studiously avoiding answering these questions, Gary. Surely you cannot believe them to be irrelevant?
I strongly suspect that Gary and Word-Up are one and the same person. Both are obsessed with male masterbation (as it seems all Islamists are – and perhaps by definition must be); and with the idea that they are unnerving others. Gary made an almost word-for-word identical comment last night on HP.
Moi, sad, El-Gaza? No, sunbeam, ’tis not me who brings sockpuppets to the party. That be you, darling. Probably.
Word-Up Ibn Gazza
The solution would be to go elsewhere – would it not?
Avoiding questions? Look I have no reason to answer those question as it has no relation to the article in question. Me avoid questions…man you have some fish memory or what…I do recall me asking a number of times over at HP for evidence that the man got instruction from ELM…but guess what you studiously avoided those questions as well.
I tell you what I’ll do you a favour and answer your question, fist of all the organisation in question JI do not operate in the UK, they are an Islamic Movement organisation based in South East Asia. Second the Muslims that worship in ELM and those who do the community work are in no way followers of the Al Qaida ideology, you are so daft to assume that and it really shows how out of touch you are with what is going on. Those who you accuse of mass murder or what…sorry I have seen no proof of their involvement, just a bunch of secular Bengalis having hissy fits every time the “Independence Day” comes around. Show me this: How many JI members have been tried and then a judgement being passed?
Now Farris tell me, how do you connect this man to the ELM just because he might of prayed there? How did he get the idea “oh you know what, I will blow my self up” from the named institutions, whether that be FOSIS or any other place. AND please don’t tell me “ahhh coz Awalki was there” and “ahh the Imam signed the Istanbul Declaration”…that don’t prove jack and you know it!
PS I am just gary know one else
Both Gary and word-up seem to be obsessed with that Islamist fascination with masturbation, defending Islamists and, of course, denying the terrorist links of Farouk Abdulmutallab and desperately talking down the possible links to the ELM. But they appear to be different people.
word-up:
You mean like the man who has just been apprehended in Detroit who tried to blow up a transatlantic aeroplane with explosives stitched into his kecks?
Muppet.
Gary:
Sorry to break it you mate, but your insipid denials about ELM’s links to Jamaat aren’t convincing anyone.
Here are three sources:
1. wikipedia
2. Open Democracy
3. Dr David Garbin of the University of Surrey. [PDF]
It also doesn’t help your cause when you, halfway through your denials about the ELM’s links to Jamaat, suddenly attempt to defend Jamaat by denying it’s genocide links in 1971. Which one is it to be – no links to Jamaati genocidaires or links to Jamaat who are innocent of any genocide involvement?
Three sources all self-referential. No smoking gun evidence. Try again.
Hundreds of thousands, by most accounts around two million men, women and children were murdered during the Bangladesh Struggle for Independence by the Pakistani armed forces and death-squads working for these armed forces.
Jamaat-e Islami Bangladesh opposed Bangladeshi independence; formed paramilitary groups that worked with the Pakistani military; and were directly involved in the mass-murder of political opponents, the attempted liquidation of Bengali intellectual strata, pogroms against Hindus and other minorities that has ever since been known as the Bangladeshi Genocide.
Leading lights in Jamaat-e Islami Bangladesh (against some of whom are very serious allegations of direct, personal involvement in the JI death-squads active in Bangladesh in the early ’70s) are now in the leadership of the East London Mosque and its associated organisations.
ELM has repeatedly promoted extremist, Islamist preachers and activists. The consistency of this leads directly to the conclusion that this is not accidental or contingent; but, rather, reflects the true position of the leadership of ELM. This would be, itself, consistent with the violently disposed, terror-inclined political-religious views of JI. The leadership of ELM and its supporters have promoted and defended such luminaries of Islamist terrorism as Anwar al-Awlaki, a leading English-language propagandist and ideologue of al-Qaida. There is no doubt that at least the leading lights of JI in the UK were aware that for the last five to six years serious concerns were being raised about al-Awlaki’s political and religious views. Yet ELM and JI continue to defend and promote this known asset of jihadi terrorism.
A number of British-based jihadi and other Islamists have been shown to have had direct links and contact with ELM and through ELM, the JI.
Here’s the question for Gary, Word-Up and all the other bright young things of JI and its support network in the UK:
Which of the above statements is untrue?
Sid, but plenty of smoking evidence exists to show Elvis is still alive and the Imam Mahdi (pbuh) is your step-father.
If a Serbian Orthodox Christian church, plus associated community association, were to be founded in Greater London by people who are known to belong to a Serbian nationalist-religious party that was directly involved in the Serbian death-squads’ attempted genocide of Bosniak Muslims in the former Yugoslavia – I take it Gary, et al, would find that a matter of considerable concern.
If that Church and community association then repeatedly promoted the views of fellow “Christian identity” activists, White supremacist preachers, anti-Semitic rabble rousing Orthodox clergy, inviting them to preach at their church, holding video conferences with these people, selling their books and DVDs, one can only imagine the outrage on forums such as EMF and the other JI web-side operations.
However, when ELM, JI and its fellow-travellers are caught-out engaging in exactly the same sort of thing, this is something completely innocent, contingent, unconnected and “blown out of all proportions” by “Islamophobes”.
Yes, of course it is.
Gary and his friends might be interested in this article from earlier this month about their beloved mosque:
http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/12/22/a-radical-new-year-from-east-london-mosque/
And from still earlier this year:
http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/02/13/from-yemen-to-east-london-not-via-heathrow/
I think people like Gary and word-up/Sid are just third-generation Bangladeshis who have tapped into religious-identity politics through local outfits like the ELM and the IFE. And now they can’t get their heads around the facts of (a) Jamaati links to these outfits and (b) Jamaat’s legacy as genocidaires.
Hence their stupefaction and bare-faced denial manifests as a refusal to come to terms with the facts. Quite sad, really.