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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3720/comment-page-1#comment-14227</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faisal,

OK this is over the top, but how the heck do you justify this sentiment?

&lt;blockquote&gt;If Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens has an agenda, it is one that we share and condone here on the Spittoon. And that is to oppose the forces of sectarian religious-identity politics and religious supremacist extremism. All of which Osama Saeed is an exponent of. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I will stand corrected, but I do not think you have any evidence to back that up, apart from the somewhat paranoid writings of one of your contributors.

It is apparent to me, but not to you, that you are running, albeit unknown to you, an anti Muslim, anti Scottish posting.

You have zero evidence to support your allegations, and that is intensely annoying. Osama Saeed does not fit your identikit picture of either a Muslim extremist nor a fruitcake Scot. What justifies your acceptance of these sorts of stereotype? 

Accusing someone of that is what McCarthyism was about was it not?

So, that at least stands. Your pathetic attempt to say otherwise gives you loyalty points to your author, it does not justify or explain what he had to say.

Your web site would be vastly improved if this wasn&#039;t sitting on page two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faisal,</p>
<p>OK this is over the top, but how the heck do you justify this sentiment?</p>
<blockquote><p>If Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens has an agenda, it is one that we share and condone here on the Spittoon. And that is to oppose the forces of sectarian religious-identity politics and religious supremacist extremism. All of which Osama Saeed is an exponent of. </p></blockquote>
<p>I will stand corrected, but I do not think you have any evidence to back that up, apart from the somewhat paranoid writings of one of your contributors.</p>
<p>It is apparent to me, but not to you, that you are running, albeit unknown to you, an anti Muslim, anti Scottish posting.</p>
<p>You have zero evidence to support your allegations, and that is intensely annoying. Osama Saeed does not fit your identikit picture of either a Muslim extremist nor a fruitcake Scot. What justifies your acceptance of these sorts of stereotype? </p>
<p>Accusing someone of that is what McCarthyism was about was it not?</p>
<p>So, that at least stands. Your pathetic attempt to say otherwise gives you loyalty points to your author, it does not justify or explain what he had to say.</p>
<p>Your web site would be vastly improved if this wasn&#8217;t sitting on page two.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3720/comment-page-1#comment-14226</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faisal,

What evidence do you have for that, other that what Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens says? You, not even Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens now accuses Osama Saeed of being something I think he is not. On what basis are you making that judgement?

Is it based on some sort of insight that I have never really credited you with in the past, into Scottish politics? Is it based on some sort of knowledge?

I totally doubt that either of the previous two sentences actually reflects what you know or choose to believe.

In fact, I think you posted somthing that is unsubstantiated, except in the head of Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens.

Your getaway was hardly hasty, by the way.

I have, as you probably know, a fair degree of respect for you. If I say to you that this is disingenuous, I&#039;d rather you listened as opposed to attempting to diminish my opposition to what I consider to be the worst of all possible journalism.

Please, don&#039;t insult me with this sort of shite:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Rather, it is made acceptable and defended by the perfect storm of a horrible sentimental admixture of Asian/Muslim moral relativism and White Guilt.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There is a perfect storm around here, and it is not of my making. Justify what you had to say or withdraw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faisal,</p>
<p>What evidence do you have for that, other that what Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens says? You, not even Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens now accuses Osama Saeed of being something I think he is not. On what basis are you making that judgement?</p>
<p>Is it based on some sort of insight that I have never really credited you with in the past, into Scottish politics? Is it based on some sort of knowledge?</p>
<p>I totally doubt that either of the previous two sentences actually reflects what you know or choose to believe.</p>
<p>In fact, I think you posted somthing that is unsubstantiated, except in the head of Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens.</p>
<p>Your getaway was hardly hasty, by the way.</p>
<p>I have, as you probably know, a fair degree of respect for you. If I say to you that this is disingenuous, I&#8217;d rather you listened as opposed to attempting to diminish my opposition to what I consider to be the worst of all possible journalism.</p>
<p>Please, don&#8217;t insult me with this sort of shite:</p>
<blockquote><p>Rather, it is made acceptable and defended by the perfect storm of a horrible sentimental admixture of Asian/Muslim moral relativism and White Guilt.</p></blockquote>
<p>There is a perfect storm around here, and it is not of my making. Justify what you had to say or withdraw.</p>
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		<title>By: Faisal</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3720/comment-page-1#comment-14225</link>
		<dc:creator>Faisal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens has an agenda, it is one that we share and condone here on the Spittoon. And that is to oppose the forces of sectarian religious-identity politics and religious supremacist extremism. All of which Osama Saeed is an exponent of. 

It is precisely why, because opposing this is &quot;shit&quot; for you and others, that I made a hasty getaway from Pickled Politics - where Saeed&#039;s politics is not recognised for what it is. Rather, it is made acceptable and defended by the perfect storm of a horrible sentimental admixture of Asian/Muslim moral relativism and White Guilt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens has an agenda, it is one that we share and condone here on the Spittoon. And that is to oppose the forces of sectarian religious-identity politics and religious supremacist extremism. All of which Osama Saeed is an exponent of. </p>
<p>It is precisely why, because opposing this is &#8220;shit&#8221; for you and others, that I made a hasty getaway from Pickled Politics &#8211; where Saeed&#8217;s politics is not recognised for what it is. Rather, it is made acceptable and defended by the perfect storm of a horrible sentimental admixture of Asian/Muslim moral relativism and White Guilt.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3720/comment-page-1#comment-14223</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faisal,

Good to hear from you again.

You know me better than that, at least I&#039;d like to think you did. Explain quite why this was posted here.

It is as obvious that I think  Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens has an agenda,  and it is not an agenda I&#039;d have thought you&#039;d have  subscribed to.

I&#039;d not have thought, correct me if I am wrong, that your default position was about bad mouthing left wing Asians.

I actually miss you on Pickled Politics, but I completely understand that you wanted to head out on your own.

It does not justify posting shit like this however.

And McCathyite is the least of it.

Give me the right of reply, for I think you have been duped...

Lets see what your audience makes of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faisal,</p>
<p>Good to hear from you again.</p>
<p>You know me better than that, at least I&#8217;d like to think you did. Explain quite why this was posted here.</p>
<p>It is as obvious that I think  Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens has an agenda,  and it is not an agenda I&#8217;d have thought you&#8217;d have  subscribed to.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d not have thought, correct me if I am wrong, that your default position was about bad mouthing left wing Asians.</p>
<p>I actually miss you on Pickled Politics, but I completely understand that you wanted to head out on your own.</p>
<p>It does not justify posting shit like this however.</p>
<p>And McCathyite is the least of it.</p>
<p>Give me the right of reply, for I think you have been duped&#8230;</p>
<p>Lets see what your audience makes of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Faisal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faisal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Douglas me old mucker, 

Don&#039;t bother with a reasoned, balanced rebuttal of the points made in the post, will you. Oh and when in doubt, invoke McCarthy.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Douglas me old mucker, </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t bother with a reasoned, balanced rebuttal of the points made in the post, will you. Oh and when in doubt, invoke McCarthy.  <img src='http://www.spittoon.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3720/comment-page-1#comment-14218</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faisal,

What editorial constraint did you apply to this post?

This is not the Osama Saeed I know. So why are you posting a piece of shite that isn&#039;t even internally consistent?

It tries, attempts, fucks up really, on a pretty consistently McCarthyite attack.

You knew this man?

Yes.

You thought he had some good in him?

Yes.

And now you don&#039;t?

Yes.

Case closed, guilty as charged.

It is pish and you know it is.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faisal,</p>
<p>What editorial constraint did you apply to this post?</p>
<p>This is not the Osama Saeed I know. So why are you posting a piece of shite that isn&#8217;t even internally consistent?</p>
<p>It tries, attempts, fucks up really, on a pretty consistently McCarthyite attack.</p>
<p>You knew this man?</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>You thought he had some good in him?</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>And now you don&#8217;t?</p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>Case closed, guilty as charged.</p>
<p>It is pish and you know it is&#8230;..</p>
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