http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4736394.stm

LOL!!!!

You need to take your own advice – and express yourself more eloquently!! Maybe you could talk to yourself in front of your mirror – practice definitely won’t make you perfect, but hey something is better than nothing right?!
(And anyway, it’s not as if you have anything better to do! (just sitting at home and writing ridiculous articles and childish comments behind pseudonyms!!!).

(P.S honestly don’t bother wasting your time replying back to this post (as i know it’ll contain nothing but filth because that’s the type of person you are).

Back to discussion….

Keep on runnin’, mofos.

I’m confused by your comment. Are you saying that the Queen of Sheba was not pre-Islamic? Or are you agreeing with me that Awlaki’s position is somewhat contradictory?

You really need to learn to express yourself more clearly.

The Yemenis are, almost without exception, enormously proud of their pre-Islamic heritage such as the highly-advanced civilisations of Marib, Hadramaut and elsewhere – not to mention the Queen of Sheba.

Who is of course mentioned in the Quran which has a whole chapter named after the region of Saba (Ancient Yemen)

I could continue. Awlaki is a fool.

He’s clearly not alone

Insh’allah.

One also wonders how Awlaki squares his hysterical attitude to pre-Islamic civilisation with Islamic traditions. What does he think of Bahira, the Christian monk in modern-day Jordan, who writers such as Al-Tabiri and Ibn Hisham believe was the one of the first to recognise Muhammad as a prophet? What also of the pre-Islamic poetry which Muhammad and his companisons so enjoyed? What too of the pre-Islamic decorations that Muhammad allowed to remain the Ka’aba after he returned to Mecca from Medina?

I could continue. Awlaki is a fool.

Do these people not even read or comprehend their own history? What of al-Farabi, the first philosopher, who dedicated his al-Madina al-Fadil to his Christian teacher of philosophy? Without fear. Without reservation.

We have truly lost our way if this is to be disparaged.

We seem to have mislaid the notion of the moral, at least some time ago… and I expect some sneering to immediately follow from my mention of the moral… more’s the pity, look.

One of the things that made the Ottomans so successful for a long period was their open mindedness to Classical Learning and the use of governmental structures that were quite quite different from the ‘Islamic’ ones employed by the Abbasids, Umayyads etc etc etc.

Ah I see someone has already mentioned that.

Regarding Azad Ali – How is he still employed? Imagine a white, christian civil servant talking about members of the Far Right in such a way or non whites in such a way. He or she would be very unemployed very quickly.

So why do Islamists get a free pass and a promotion? Does brown skin colour act as moral and professional body armour? The attitude to such extremists from the Senior Civil Service is troubling indeed.

TCH

Short of uttering threats against superiors and bringing weapons to the workplace, not much.

Things are changing so quickly that by the time I’ve found out that an extremist has become ‘moderate’, they’ve already gone back to being an extremist again.

It’s enough to confuse anyone.

Seriously, what does it take to get chucked out??