Sunny from Pickled Politics recorded an interview with Bill Baker of the English Democrats at Saturday’s anti Al-Muhajiroun demo.
Most of the English Democrats I spoke to on the day were, like Bill Baker, thoroughly decent and sensible people.
Best line:
Sunny: So you don’t think Englishness is a racial identity?
Bill Baker: No, England is a society.
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Sorry, but the resident hero of PP came across as a Compleat Prat in this video. He went in with the assumption that he was addressing an EDL rep (and therefore, in his reductionist politics, obviously some BNP-breathing redneck racist fascist [add loathsome adjectives to taste]) and kept on badgering him with flamebait. It took more than five minutes for it to dawn upon him that maybe he really should ask who they were, and when he found out that they weren’t his bugbears du jour, he promptly lost all interest and bailed out. Hilarious.
I’m marginally more concerned by Bill’s ideological minder, who kept butting in whenever Bill suggested the full-scale enforced transportation to places unknown of all illegal “ethnics”.
Who is this prat? He says we should get things done through the ballot box and yet here he is spouting a load of nonense in the streets! He should make his mind up where he wants to “get things done” Sure there are too many immigrants in England, we know that. The problem is how to deal with the years of uncontrolled mass immigration that the government has mishandled and mismanaged. The answer is, ???????????????? It’s never that simple! There is no one simple answer. Sure we need to ged rid of a load of them, but how? As soon as you try, they will cry “racist” and spout the HR Act and the do-gooders will back them up so we have no chance. Get rid of the do-ggoders first, then the HR Act, then we will be well on our way to getting our cointry back on it’s feet and fit for an Englishman to get on with what he has been doing for nearly 2000 yrs. Building this country once more into something worth fighting for and preserving and CHRISTIAN.
Bill Baker hasn’t got a clue about identities/ethnicities.
What sort of Question and answer is given here?
Firstly the question is quite an odd one as “Englishness” is not a racial identity, neither is Irishness, Polishness, Indianness, Pakistaniness etc etc
Shouldn’t the question have been “Is English a racial identity?”
Any way he was asked if Englishness is a racial identity? and he answered talking about ‘England’ and not ‘Englishness’? he didn’t answer the question but just talked about how he viewed England the place is a society? which is not corect, as England is a country but within it there is an English society.
Just as in China there is a Chinese society, Somali there is a Somali society etc
To answer the question is English a racial identity…
Like any community the English have no easily definable borders but in law the English are defined as what is known as a “racial group” by reason of their “national* origins”, (a nation is not a geographical area of land, it is a group of people if you like – a large extended family) which means that they are members of a community whose members share a history, culture, ancestry and communal name, and are identified with a territory ie England.
There are legal definitions for what it takes to be part of any particular racial/ethnic group but in reality people do not need a legal definition to be told what they are because it is something that they instinctively know.
The Courts have set out the following test for membership of a racial group for purposes of the Race Relations Act –
a – you have a reasonable belief that you are a member of the group; and
B – other members of the group accept as a member.
It is possible to be a 100% member of an ethnic or nation racial group if one is not also a member of another similar racial group by virtue of the application of the tests at ‘a’ and ‘B’ above.
The English are also an ethnic group for ethnic monitoring purposes. The Office of National Statistics use the following definition for an ethnic group as set out by the House of Lords.
“An ethnic group has a distinct identity, based on recognizing a long shared history and having distinct cultural traditions, which may be related to one of the following chrematistics:
- Ancestry
- Geographical origin
- Nationality
- Country of birth
- Cultural traditions
- Religion
- Language
Does any one no what this Bill Baker is talking about it just sounds like BOLLOX to me…
I am glad i watched this i am now stopping voting the English Democrats if he represents them then i am afraid they are not going anywhere.
Lee Ingram is of German origin yet has been accepted into English society as a member. His stance now is that England is a ‘selective’ group and not everyone can be referred to as English. So how far do we go back then Lee as your German origin makes you ineligible to be an Englishman if we were to follow your theory. So are you saying that you are not English as you are German descent but have adopted England as your host nation. Great stuff, as so have many Africans and Asians as well and I think we would rather get rid of the Whinging Germans who have caused the problems via the EU before we contemplate getting rid of the hardworking Black and Asian English citizens. So you have a white skin and promote that as a white supremacist you are better than people of Asian or African cultures, but Nazism was wiped out in 1945 and your dwelling on a return to such fascist ideals can never happen. I can trace my ancestry back to Hastings, which is a lot further than the late 1700′s, when England gave refuge to Hanoverian refugee’s where you stem from Lee Ingram. Pot and kettle comes to mind here and you should be grateful that your ancestors were allowed refuge, the same way that we give refuge to others from around the world. Yes England is full up and the millions of illegals need to be rounded up, processed and the majority sent back to where they originated from. But this will be achieved through humane procedures, not via you Fuhrer the Genocidal Griffin and the fascist BNP. You can always go and reclaim your roots in the fatherland if you are not satisfied with it Lee.
But then:
Hmmmm.
No Bill, you cannot race your ancestry back to Harold. No one can. There are no records. If you are tracing it via your surname ancestry, then I can go back 2000 years as my surname means, “dweller by the cross” if you want to read it that way but of course it may not mean that at all! All Anglo Saxons have some continental ancestry in them. No one can tracwe theirs back to the original inhabitants of these islands, in fact they wern’t even and island when people 1st migrated over here, AND THAT INCLUDES YOUR ANCESTORS! who were of the same origin as mine and Lee’s. So don’t come that old crap about German ancestry. Further more, the BNP is as anti-fascist as the rest of us. Don’t believe the government lies about that. Lee does not say that England is a selective group, he says the English are, always were and always should be regardless of how far back you want to claim ancestry. We have to start somewhere and Anglo Saxon is quite good enough. As for comparing blacks and asians with the English……words fail me! Nobody is saying they are all bad people, just that there are too many of them here. There is good and bad in all groups. Anyone who breaks our law should be deported if they are not Ethnic English and by that I mean any immigrants, legal or otherwise. They chose to come here, we didn’t ask them and we don’t want them if they are going to fill out prisons as criminals which WE have to pay for! No one is against a multicultural society IF..AND ONLY IF, it’s good for England. Which just a this time it is certainly not. And I’m not singling out asians as you might think. We have far too many bodies in this country and the ethnic English should come 1st. “Charity begins at home” as they say. Lets sort out England 1st and the rest of the world can sort itself. What right do we have to poke our nose into somweone else’s affairs anyway! Before you continue to spout this crap GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT! 90% of what you say is either liblelous, inaccurate or downright crap.
Bill Baker, You have just given us more evidence that you have not got a clue about identities.
your last name is also of North Germanic Anglo-Saxon origin just like mine, and just like the overwheling majority of the English.
We English and that includes you, originated from the Anglo-Saxons who were north Germanic tribes and I am astounded that you do not know this and yet proffess to be an English nationalist!!?????
See here for your pre 8th Century (Anglo-Saxon times) surname Baker http://www.surnamedb.com/surname.aspx?name=baker
The majority of us English have North Germanic Anglo-Saxon origins, this does not make you or me or any of us English any less English, it is simply part of our roots, part of the English make ups origins.
Just as many Indians feel that their roots reside in African tribes, but they and myself do not view them as any less Indian of course, because I and them understand identities and understand that this is just their roots and is part of their make up.
You will find that most ethnicities all over the world are made up of different tribes from different areas too originally, but no one other than the English self hatred brigade puts their identity on trial due to this.
You really need to learn a lot more about your own English name and its Anglo-Saxon North Germanic tribes origins as this is your identity and you either don’t know it or are full of self hatred.
I am a white supremist??? please give me evidence of this Bill?
I have not been accepted into an English society Bill as my surname originates from the Anglo-Saxons who amalgimated into and created the English identity!!!!! (around the 4th Century) My family goes all the way back to the beggining of the English and the begginings of England!!!! I have not come along as a modern German for Christ sake!!!! Do you not get it????? the name ‘Ingram’ is a name of a family from the origins of the English nation! My blood and name runs right back to our Anglo-Saxon North Germanic tribes begginings!!! Do you get it now?????????? and yours does too, it is of Anglo-Saxon origin and the Anglo-Saxons were North Germanic tribes. Surely you get it now????????????????
Hastings was the Norman invasion of Anglo-Saxon England, ANGLO-SAXONS being you and me and ANGLO-SAXONS being of NORTH GERMANIC ORIGIN, thats YOU, ME and the majority of all other ENGLISH being from ANGLO-SAXON NORTH GERMANIC origin, which deas not make us any less English it makes us part of the make up of the ORIGINS of the ENGLISH RACE!!!!!!!
We don’t need to go any forthe back than the 4th Century for the English existing and for the 9th Century for England to originally exist officially as a unified country ruled by one King. We cannot go back any forther as this is the begginings of England and the English which is where me and you Bill, yes YOU come from, WE are of ANGLO-SAXON NORTH GERMANIC TRIBES.
Try reading these books on our history and come back to me then Bill…
Anglo-Saxon FAQ’s by Stephen Pollington, The origins of the English nation by H Munro and An English Nationalism by Tony Linsell.
By the way there is no such thing as Blach and Asian English just as there is no such thing as a white West Indian or white Asian as I’m sure you will agree is a nonsense. Although I have a sneaky fealing you will some how try and dispute this in your ill informed idiotic fashion.
This Sunny is a good inerviewer you points out so many floors in Bill bakers argument…..
1. he thinks the muslims standing on the other side of the square are excellent but dont stand with them..
2.He don’t want sharia law in the mosques when it purly civil..
3.3 TO 4 Million running round the country….what is that doing to thr economy Actually the government is making the 17.5% on vat every time they go to a shop.
4. You can’t be multi ethnic English its impossible..
The English Democrats need to rethink who there spokes man is as this guy dont have a basic knowledge.
Bill,
have a read of our English origins here…you will find that myself and you and the majority of the English are factualy of Anglo-Saxon North Germanic decent…which does not make us any less English, it is simply part of our origins and true English ethnicity make up…
http://www.englandandenglishhistory.com/origins_ethnic_english/default.aspx
Bill,
Lets also look at it this way… one of the ethnic groups that make up Indians population are the Tamil ethnic group.
You are saying that a man with Tamil ethnicity is English if he lives here and has willingly taken on a civic English role etc
But what about his Tamil ethnicity? Oh dear, aren’t you ethnically cleansing the Tamil man of his ethnicity? as this really would be Nazi Hitler white supremecy wouldn’t it not!????
Your not into ethnic cleansing ethnic groups if India are you?
How can the ethnic Tamil man be English when his ethnicity is Tamil?
(PLEASE ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS IN FULL WITH AN EXPLANATION.)
Bill,
Have a look at this basic map which shows the Angles, Saxons and Jutes who were collectively known as the Anglo-Saxons coming from Northern Germany to Briton, this was before England existed of course as it was the Anglo-Saxons who amalgamated into one English identity with the core of the identity being the Angles as they were the largest tribe and it was then the English who named England and created its borders, they came from what is now the border of Northern Germany and Denmark, with Denmark not existing back then either. (This was in the 4th Century onwards)
http://cd7.e2bn.net/e2bn/leas/c99/schools/cd7/website/images/anglo-saxon-Map.jpg
When I say I am of North Germanic origins this is what I mean… my Anglo-Saxon beginnings! which are my English beginnings and yours!!
Most of this info has been airbrushed out of our society by the Anti-English British state and so this makes it alien to our people when we tell them that their roots lay in North Germanic Anglo-Saxon tribes and those who have been brain washed good and proper would react by accusing us of being some sort of Nazi s etc due to the Germanic reference, so the British brainwashing and cleansing job has been very well done on you Bill, you have been cleansed of your true identity and roots and are in denial because you know no other, you have been indoctrinated by the British state who love you not knowing about your true roots and identity, because if you did realise your true identity, you would then see how we English have been oppressed since 1066 and would want answers… but for now you are one of the products of the Anti-English British state perfectly trained to deny your own identity and your roots and has taught you to overreact when being given your true identity back!… who would you prefer to listen to… a true ethnic English nationalist like myself or the British state? your choice?
Lee Ingram, you need to get a life!
But he has one, as an idiot without a justified cause. Seems he is worried at the moment at being exposed for the fool he is
In the words of Henry 2nd, “can someone rid us of this troublesome person” I know, that’s not totally correct, but it fits the circumstances and after all he is not only weird, uncouth, ignorant and generally uneducated in his “Englishness” that he’s an embarrassment to all England.
L Smith. It is because of people like you that we need people like Lee. He does have a life and a damn good one. He doesn’t have to do what he does. He’s just very patriotic Englishman doing what all Englishmen and women should do but are just too complacent and too lazy to get off their fat arse’s and actually do something worthwhile for a change like “think of the future” not the moment, think of others not just themselves! Or are you not educated enough to see what is happening or don’t you care about anyone else but your own sordid little life! It’s you who should get a life, not Lee.
And I wasn’t talking about Lee when I quoted Henry 2nd!
Bill after reading your posts and watching the Interview i feel you shouldn’t Knock Lee Ingram and try to learn from him..
I have read a few of Lee posts on other forums and the man is highly dedicated and Knowledgable..
My guess is you are very uneducated in the English History and culture going by your Video Interview..
And you stand for a party that supposed to stand up for England i hope the rest of the party are not like you.
Spot on English boy! Wish there were more like you. What we don’t need are complacent idiots who think that this country is safe and that England is not in danger of disappearing beneath the brainwashing and ignorance of the government. Those who criticise Lee and those like him obviously only look at the news, they don’t understand it! And their memories are either very short or they don’t have any at all! They obviously don’t have the brainpower to work out what is really happening behind the scenes. The government is lying to us right left and cantre and people believe what they say over the years if the say it often enough. Some people have more about them than that, thank God! And I’m not religious!
Bill, who are you protesting for? you don’t have a clue do you? is it for yourself and your anti-English ego????
You need to take that England shirt off and walk away, you are a disgrace to the English and a damage to any progress in the security of our true identity, culture, heritage & landscape, England!!
@Lee Ingram
“a – you have a reasonable belief that you are a member of the group; and
B – other members of the group accept as a member.”
A member of English society who is not racially English yet is accepted by both ‘a’ and ‘b’ would be English for you, yes?
Aslong as the person in question was at least born in England and has “reasonable belief” to being a member of, and accepted as a member of the English identity; they would be accepted as English by you?
I follow the ramblings of the CofSG forum and saw you mentioning that people of colour are not English. Yet your recent Shieldwall foray says that skin colour isn’t paramount to who is and who isn’t accepted as being English.
Could you please expand this contradiction for me?
I think its quite obvious who and who isn’t English, those who fool themselves should take more pride in their own identity rather than convincing the world otherwise. Its like an Englishman claiming he’s Japanese, on paper it might be accepted but in reality we all know he isn’t truly Japanese. Forced diversity has confused and blinded people to the actual truth.
We English are constantly having our areas of England given the diversity makeover with very English estates having mass immigration shipped in with the whole ethnic make-up and landscape soon becoming alien to us…
‘from estates to now whole English cities and towns having the joys of diversity forced upon us’.
Why does China Town in London not have an influx of Muslims building Mosques like they are going out of fashion in their area?
Why does the Tower Hamlets Asian area in London not have large amount of Eastern Europeans settling in creating Eastern European shops and bars and replacing their work staff?
Why are the new Somali enclaves all over England not being given a diversity make over and not frowned upon for sticking to their own?
Why are Indian and Pakistani areas all over England allowed to exist as a colonising community alone, without being accused of intolerance and being unaccommodating, without being tarnished as hideously brown? Or racist even?
Why are they not told that they are a mongrel breed due to most believing in having African tribal origins? Why are they not told that their diversity is what makes them Indian or Pakistani and so they should let other communities in to be part of their identity?
Why are West Indian areas all over England allowed to exist without outsiders forcing them to be more multi-cultural? Why are they not forced to water their culture down in favour of others?
Why are they not constantly told by outsiders that they are a tolerant nation and are welcoming of other peoples?
Why are new Polish enclaves not told that they are becoming hideously white areas? Why are they not constantly told by outsiders that they must understand the culture of others more, why are they not told by outsiders to accept Iraqi, Afghan and African Asylum seekers into their areas and assist them? Why are their areas not being enriched by others?
Why are heavily populated Irish or Scottish areas in England not told they are British and should mix more with the English? Why are they not told they cannot be Scottish or Irish as the Celts would have mixed with the English in the dark ages? Why are they not accused of being hideously white areas? Why are their flags not being taken down deemed as un-inclusive and an offense to outsiders?
It is quite clear that the English by a majority are the only people having to endure the forced multi-cultural, multi-ethnicity, multi-religious make over…
Or is it just simply an intentional ethnic English clearing in aid of the Anti-English British states
‘New England Order’ of colonization via many other peoples?
If we accept that anyone and everyone can be English by merely being born in England or due to simply living in England then we create this scenario….
Abdul Aleem Hasan “I have lived here most of my life, I am English, I am currently building a new Mosque in England.”
Jeet Singh “I was born in England, I am English and am organising a regular Vaisakhi Sikh procession that is being allowed to go through several Cities of England.”
Alpesh Gupta “I am a 2nd generation Hindu, I am English, and I have created a new arranged marriage wedding service business in England.”
Damu Okeke “I live in England, I am now English and am setting up a children’s tribal African drum lessons project.”
Leroy Samual “My grandfather was born here, I am English, I am the current co-organiser of a local Caribbean Carnival.”
Alenka Gorski “I have lived and worked in England for the last 4 years, I speak very good English, I feel I fit in and that I am an Englishwomen and I now run my own chain of Polish Bar’s placed in different cities all over England.”
Changchang Wu “I was born here I am now an English lady, and I run a solicitor’s firm that specialises in Chinese immigration cases. ”
Also when a rep from the ‘Equality and Human Rights Commission’ comes to a factory asking questions concerning keeping to the diversity quota of a workforce and asks the owner of the business “Do you have a percentage of ethnic minority workers?” the manager replies “Yes we have 4 Africans, 5 West Indians and 2 Indians” and when the EHRC rep asks “How many English staff do you have?” the owner can reply “I have Alenka Gorski she is our receptionist she is English, Abdul Hasan our lorry Driver he is English and Jeet Singh is our Cleaner who is English and our MD Alpesh Gupta he is English too.”
All done, diversity rota kept to!
“Oh and this could easily be our England football team?”….
Manager Jock Macdonald.
Duncan Daglish, Diego Lopez, Abedi Mutiri , Madu Mubarak, Angus Ferguson, Dafydd Griffiths, Klimek Adamski, Dodek Jasinski, Alphonse Prideaux, Raimundo Laurent, Ubora Moraa.
This England where anyone and everyone can be English is one without English culture and one with all the English unemployed replaced by pretend English.
We do not hate any other identities, this is about the love and protection of our own identity, as we see it as dangerous and as cleansing of the unique English identity when giving it disrespectfully away so easy to anyone and everyone.
Question: A person born in America to English parents, who rejects an English cultural identity and fully embraces the American cultural identity; are they English, and if so how?
Question: Is Tom Jones English?
We both know the answer to those questions.
Who is a true American? Were the true Americans not the Native American Indians?
Tom Jones is Welsh, he is of Britonic decent not English.
I don’t have any issue with those who have become Anglicised but they too have an identity which they cherish and protect when needs be.
Q. Why should I not cherish and protect my true Identity?
Did the nation of America and by proxy the American ethnicity exist before the arrival of European colonialists? We both know the answer to that one, but please, you didn’t answer my question regarding the ethnicity of the child living in America.
By the way, Tom Jones is 3/4 English. Is he English or Welsh?
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/entertainment_news/article6464767.ece
P.S I don’t begrudge you the contents of your question. You and I are both English, and I sit in the exact same boat as you.
Tom Jones has chosen his Welsh Identity and Is simply 3/4 English although I don’t see him celebrating English culture, History or Heritage, neither do I see outsiders who become Anglicised and are NOT 3/4 English celebrating my History, Identity & Culture, so I am fighting to secure my Unique Identity (who else will??)
The answer to your first question is that he is simply English. He has two English parents and so his identity is English.
Why is it that only the English get the Identity quiz?
Would you ask a Japanese man the same?
Also unlike yourself, I’m no Tom Jones fan!!
Inform me of the facts where an outsider has celebrated my Anglo-Saxon heritage? I am unique, I have an Identity going back nearly 2000yrs and
England is full of English hatred. If you are truly English then you should start listening to your bretheren my friend.
Q. Why do you attempt to deny I am right?
Q. Do you actually think the likes of you with your Civic view would be welcomed if we became the minority in England?
Your not in my boat mate, not yet!!
Wake up and smell the coffee!
Tom Jones has chosen his Welsh Identity
*Columbo moment* That is very interesting. If you don’t mind me asking, but what makes you think to the contrary that Tom Jones was born in Wales, to Welsh parents and brought and raised up in what was Welsh cultural surroundings, and has therefore not “chosen” his Welsh identity but hasn’t known any other?
I’m trying to figure out why some will not “accept” that being English doesn’t necessarily follow a genetic or racial line, but a born and raised cultural identity.
The answer to the American child question is interesting as to me an American is not English, just as I can’t be an American regardless of racial similarities (or in this case, exact).
Q. Why do you attempt to deny I am right?
I don’t believe you are wrong or right. I think you are looking at the whole from one perspective. This is a natural reaction considering the hotbed of racial and cultural tensions we have been foisted into.
Q. Do you actually think the likes of you with your Civic view would be welcomed if we became the minority in England?
I am not a civic. I’m as xenophobic and intolerant of those who don’t adhere to my strict quota as the next ethno-nationalist Englishman.
P.S. The discussion is between two Englishmen. I am not Japanese, nor are you. The subject of who is or isn’t Japanese means nothing to me, as I’m sure it means just as little to you.
P.P.S I am a Tom Jones fan. I blame my mother.
P.P.P.S I can’t stand the smell of coffee. Perhaps a nice whiskey instead.
Tom Jones aye? each to their own I suppose
I hate admitting it, but I was a Kylie Minogue fan when I was younger ha ha (how sad is that), I think I had a thing about her??? It definitely wasn’t her music any how!!
Obviously Tom Jones is still 3/4 English, its in his blood and by stating that he is 3/4 English you clearly admit that English is in fact a racial group?
This racial group also has its own identity, history, heritage, landscape & culture.
I think there is nothing racist about preserving an Identity neither is their anything facist about being proud of who you are.
Please check out the English Shieldwall, it has some fantastic Articles which are open for debate. The views expressed are from the other side of the coin, they are written by English folk who are neither left wing or right wing but just plain and simply English and proud.
http://www.englishshieldwall.weebly.com
@ (Anti) Englishman,
The English Shieldwall stance on English identity is as my stance but you either chose to not understand it or simply do not understand it.
‘Part’ of being ethnically English is to be white, this is in accordance with the Test Census form 2007
http://www.steadfasttrust.org.uk/census.htm
and it is in accordance with common sense but myself and the English Shieldwall do not insultingly reduce our identity down to just simply skin colour as it is so much more than that, do you understand this (Anti) Englishman?
You also insultingly put the English identity on trial here in a manor that you would not and no doubt never will put to any other ethnic group which shows your agenda, you are clearly anti English so much so that you feel the need to chalenge me concerning your uncomfortableness of not being able to acknowledge part of the English ethnicity as being white and so I cannot help you as you have been brainwashed into the realms of self hatred, that’s if you are English that is? as you don’t sound very English at all?
He who lasts laugh comes to mind.
Expelled from Shield wall due to your fascist views I believe.
You and your pal were going to come and attack me, you were suing me and challenging me all of which I waited patiently for but nothing materialised. All mouth no action
~Meinheir Ingram you have been found very wanting indeed and as insignificant as first described as the Shield wall now turned their back on you as well. Pitiful really and maybe you should think about going back to your roots in Germania where you belong
The more this bill bloke opens his mouth, the bigger the hole gets! Abu, wern’t you in that cartoon film Aladdin? I’m sure I recognise your rhetoric. You are one of the reasons why, within the indigenous population, and I’m not including this bill person, there is growing resentment of your kind. You come over here without invitation and then proceed to criticise this country and it’s people. Who the Bl***y hell do you think you are? If this country is so bad and you don’t like the people, what the f****** hell are you doing still here? Oh, I know…scrounging! sorry about the language but I’m furious about foreigners who come here and then spit at us and our country. Don’t be surprised when we kick you out. It won’t happen tomorrow, but it will come. We have had enough and the English Lion is awakening. May the Lord save your soul when it does! Or he would if he existed…which he doesn’t.
@Lee Ingram
Thank you for your reply. It seems you’re very tetchy in conveying your opinions without getting angry and flustered and resorting to silly childish playground name calling. It’s a good thing I have a good, strong English upperlip to not resort to that level.
But, please, I would like for you to expand on your point.
‘Part’ of being ethnically English is to be white, this is in accordance with the Test Census form 2007
Yet on your Shieldwall page it expressly states:-
“All ethnicities are so much more than just skin colour.”
Could you comment further, please?