Comments on: Dalia Mogahed Makes More Excuses for HT Show Appearance http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3201 Heresy is another word for freedom of thought Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:32:51 +0000 hourly 1 By: Al-Qanaas Al-Masri http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3201#comment-13426 Al-Qanaas Al-Masri Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:22:30 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=3201#comment-13426 I don't understand. How does finding "that Muslims reject attacks on civilians as promoted by terrorist extremists like Al Qaida" amount to "defending Islam" exactly? If anything it is defending Muslims from Fox News-style "All Muslims are terrorists" hysteria. I don’t understand. How does finding “that Muslims reject attacks on civilians as promoted by terrorist extremists like Al Qaida” amount to “defending Islam” exactly? If anything it is defending Muslims from Fox News-style “All Muslims are terrorists” hysteria.

]]> By: Abu Faris http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3201#comment-13422 Abu Faris Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:14:12 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=3201#comment-13422 <blockquote>Because she produced an unprecentedly comprehensive survey showing that Muslims reject attacks on civilians as promoted by terrorist extremists like Al Qaida and also the complete seperation of religion and politics as promoted by secular extremists like Spitoon.</blockquote> I am sorry, have we read the same report as each other? Your interpretation (especially the second part) entirely misreads the survey's findings. Incidentally, it was not <b>her</b> survey. Just out of interest - what has anyone's nickname on this site got to do with anything being discussed in this thread?

Because she produced an unprecentedly comprehensive survey showing that Muslims reject attacks on civilians as promoted by terrorist extremists like Al Qaida and also the complete seperation of religion and politics as promoted by secular extremists like Spitoon.

I am sorry, have we read the same report as each other?

Your interpretation (especially the second part) entirely misreads the survey’s findings.

Incidentally, it was not her survey.

Just out of interest – what has anyone’s nickname on this site got to do with anything being discussed in this thread?

]]> By: urthesame http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3201#comment-13418 urthesame Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:00:30 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=3201#comment-13418 Abu Wanabe Arab <blockquote> How did Dalia defend Islam? She spoke about her opinion survey not Islamic beliefs </blockquote> Because she produced an unprecentedly comprehensive survey showing that Muslims reject attacks on civilians as promoted by terrorist extremists like Al Qaida and also the complete seperation of religion and politics as promoted by secular extremists like Spitoon. You lot probably support surveys from the Muslim haters at CSC ! How is using racist names like "Abu Wanabe Arab" defending Islam ? Abu Wanabe Arab

How did Dalia defend Islam? She spoke about her opinion survey not Islamic beliefs

Because she produced an unprecentedly comprehensive survey showing that Muslims reject attacks on civilians as promoted by terrorist extremists like Al Qaida and also the complete seperation of religion and politics as promoted by secular extremists like Spitoon.

You lot probably support surveys from the Muslim haters at CSC !

How is using racist names like “Abu Wanabe Arab” defending Islam ?

]]> By: Abu Faris http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3201#comment-13415 Abu Faris Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:57:19 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=3201#comment-13415 ursame/Munir/ etc., etc. I'm sorry, chap; but you are completely off your trolley. ursame/Munir/ etc., etc.

I’m sorry, chap; but you are completely off your trolley.

]]> By: Abu Wannabe Arab http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3201#comment-13410 Abu Wannabe Arab Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:18:10 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=3201#comment-13410 How did Dalia defend Islam? She spoke about her opinion survey not Islamic beliefs. She was criticised for not challenging HTs views and their attempts to use her findings for propaganda purposes. BTW Her findings didn't actually support HTs worldview at all in reality since they found that the vast majority of Muslims believe in Democracy and have differing interpretations of Sharia. So I don't know what an earth your going on about or are you just reading from the usual brain-dead script. How did Dalia defend Islam? She spoke about her opinion survey not Islamic beliefs. She was criticised for not challenging HTs views and their attempts to use her findings for propaganda purposes. BTW Her findings didn’t actually support HTs worldview at all in reality since they found that the vast majority of Muslims believe in Democracy and have differing interpretations of Sharia. So I don’t know what an earth your going on about or are you just reading from the usual brain-dead script.

]]> By: urthesame http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3201#comment-13406 urthesame Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:52:00 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=3201#comment-13406 Spitton cant forgive Dalia Mogahed for defending Islam or for factually surveying and reporting what Muslims actiually belive ratehr than what Spitoon have deluded themselves into believing Muslims believe. Hence their absurd campaign to demonise her based on the most flimsy of associations (while Spitoon have direct undeniable associations with Muslim haters). Funny they always "talk" of empowering Muslim women while trying to get one of the most prominent sacked and replaced by zionist lackeys and apostates such as themselves wholl read from whatever script the neo-cons give them Spitton cant forgive Dalia Mogahed for defending Islam or for factually surveying and reporting what Muslims actiually belive ratehr than what Spitoon have deluded themselves into believing Muslims believe.

Hence their absurd campaign to demonise her based on the most flimsy of associations (while Spitoon have direct undeniable associations with Muslim haters). Funny they always “talk” of empowering Muslim women while trying to get one of the most prominent sacked and replaced by zionist lackeys and apostates such as themselves wholl read from whatever script the neo-cons give them

]]> By: Abu Faris http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3201#comment-13401 Abu Faris Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:10:27 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=3201#comment-13401 tobias <blockquote>the collective morality of a medieval usurer</blockquote> I'm not to sure what a "collective morality" is; but I am sure you are quite aware that in the popular imagination usury was usually associated with Jews in the Middle Ages. So your point in using this particular expression was, exactly? Indeed, I'm not too sure why you appear to have developed this rather singular obsession with an article by Douglas Murray. I think I will hold back on expressing my views on that article until you care to explain why you are littering threads with references to it. tobias

the collective morality of a medieval usurer

I’m not to sure what a “collective morality” is; but I am sure you are quite aware that in the popular imagination usury was usually associated with Jews in the Middle Ages. So your point in using this particular expression was, exactly?

Indeed, I’m not too sure why you appear to have developed this rather singular obsession with an article by Douglas Murray. I think I will hold back on expressing my views on that article until you care to explain why you are littering threads with references to it.

]]> By: tobias http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3201#comment-13392 tobias Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:38:40 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=3201#comment-13392 lol. What on earth makes you think that I'm an "Islamist" (Are you using the Quilliam Foundation definition or Mr Murray's)??? Anyway, I suppose you neocon, faux-intellectuals with the collective morality of a medieval usurer don't mind throwing labels at people without any knowledge or evidence....but hey, I suppose that's the neocon way. So, did you like Mr Murray's article? I thought it was very well-written. I know you already have comments about it, but please don't go neocon on me and start making assumptions and wild claims about Mr. Murray or the Quilliam Foundation. Do read the article, I think you will find it most enjoyable. Here's the link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/23/quilliam-islamic-fundamentalists-terrorism :-) lol. What on earth makes you think that I’m an “Islamist” (Are you using the Quilliam Foundation definition or Mr Murray’s)???

Anyway, I suppose you neocon, faux-intellectuals with the collective morality of a medieval usurer don’t mind throwing labels at people without any knowledge or evidence….but hey, I suppose that’s the neocon way.

So, did you like Mr Murray’s article?
I thought it was very well-written. I know you already have comments about it, but please don’t go neocon on me and start making assumptions and wild claims about Mr. Murray or the Quilliam Foundation. Do read the article, I think you will find it most enjoyable.

Here’s the link:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/23/quilliam-islamic-fundamentalists-terrorism

:-)

]]> By: 264u http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3201#comment-13390 264u Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:41:44 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=3201#comment-13390 Didn't know you islamist dreamers rely on 'being informed'. I thought wild guesses and conspiracies were the order of the day. Oh well you live and learn. Didn’t know you islamist dreamers rely on ‘being informed’. I thought wild guesses and conspiracies were the order of the day. Oh well you live and learn.

]]> By: tobias http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3201#comment-13388 tobias Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:23:04 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=3201#comment-13388 According to me? I thought this place was a joint venture between the two. Have I been misinformed? Anyway, I think the article should be discussed and who better than the people at Spittoon to analyse it.... According to me?
I thought this place was a joint venture between the two. Have I been misinformed?

Anyway, I think the article should be discussed and who better than the people at Spittoon to analyse it….

]]> By: 264u http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3201#comment-13385 264u Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:38:39 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=3201#comment-13385 Since he runs this site according to you why not? Or did you say that was Quilliam, you really need to make your mind up. Since he runs this site according to you why not? Or did you say that was Quilliam, you really need to make your mind up.

]]> By: tobias http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3201#comment-13383 tobias Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:00:23 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=3201#comment-13383 Are we not going to have a thread about Douglas Murray's insightful and revealing article?? Are we not going to have a thread about Douglas Murray’s insightful and revealing article??

]]> By: Abu Faris http://www.spittoon.org/archives/3201#comment-13381 Abu Faris Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:53:07 +0000 http://www.spittoon.org/?p=3201#comment-13381 As noted on another thread, http://www.spittoon.org/archives/2968/comment-page-1#comment-13370, Dalia Mogahed has familial connections with the Muslim Brotherhood and its allies and so may be a tad reticent (to put it mildly) about being critical of Islamism. As noted on another thread, http://www.spittoon.org/archives/2968/comment-page-1#comment-13370, Dalia Mogahed has familial connections with the Muslim Brotherhood and its allies and so may be a tad reticent (to put it mildly) about being critical of Islamism.

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