The Spittoon recently brought you the disturbing news that, on the 30th of this month, Kensington Town Hall was planning to host a fundraiser for Cageprisoners at which a video message from Anwar al-Awlaki would be broadcast. If you were concerned by this then you will find that today’s Observer contains some good news.
An Islamist preacher has been banned from addressing a major British fundraising event amid claims he backs attacks on UK troops and supports terrorist organisations linked to Al Qaeda.
The revelation that Anwar al-Awlaki, a Yemen-based preacher accused of advocating violent jihad, was due to speak via video link at Kensington town hall later this month, has raised fears public buildings are being used for extremism. A spokesman for Kensington and Chelsea council said: “Some of the views expressed by Mr al-Awlaki in the past are not appropriate for broadcast in [council] premises.”
The council banned al-Awlaki from speaking only after politicians and anti-extremist groups raised concerns about his appearance at the Cage Prisoners event, which will raise money for Muslims held in Guantánamo Bay.
Whilst this development should be welcomed, Kensington and Chelsea Council’s move does not go far enough. Cageprisoners’ desire to broadcast a message from Awlaki on this occasion and their close relationship with him in the past (including interviewing him on their website, reposting blog entries from his jihadist website and hosting a video message from him at their last Ramadan fundraiser) should preclude them from being hosted at a council facility even if they’ve agreed not to broadcast his message this time. And this is without looking at the other speakers advertised by Cageprisoners as speaking at Kensington Town Hall on 30th August – a topic to which I hope to return soon.
Kensington and Chelsea have now made one good decision, but if they are serious about preserving their reputation then they should also refuse Cageprisoners this platform not just for propagatation of their views but to raise funds as well.
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Under no circumstances should any public building in the UK be used to support
terrorists, either in custody, as in Guantanamo, or on the loose.
Imam Anwar is a very good speaker providing much needed multi-dimensional talks for the youth of today. Its evident that by doing what he’s doing he’s treading on your feet, getting in the way of your plans that your so called leaders have you slaving around over to promote their internal agenda. Corruption, deception, lies and deceit seem to be the backbone and hallmarkings of british councils, if Kensington and Chelsea Council have said no to the event, then so what, big deal, its only a matter of time before some other council says yes.
On a seperate note, Imam Anwar Al-Awlaki is a gem to Muslims. There are 1000+ websites out there scattered across the globe that have feeds posted ion their sites from his. When he releases a post or a new lecture, the amount of chatter on the internet cannot be matched by any other site. There are hundreds and thousands of Muslims in the UK that 200% support Imam Anwar, and there are many sites that link to his site because he is a very credible source for everything islamic.
the Moderator4
‘the Intellectual Muslim’ Blog
Abu Yusuf is my name – even though my position is the 4th moderator on the IM Blog, if youre that particular about having unique name postings on your comments threads then invest in some expertise whereby the site prompts you when entering the name if the name has already been taken.
You’re not going to get far with your readers projecting that kind of attitude
We have a very specific problem with people from your IP address (I assume you) trying to pass themselves off as other commenters and writing rude, homophobic, filthy and Antisemitic comments about commenters and writers at the Spittoon.
Quite simply, knock it off.
Of the 2 comments (this being the 3rd) have I displayed any rude, homophobic, filthy and Antisemitic comments about commenters and writers at the Spittoon’? (I have to admit that you guys aren’t too popular in terms of conversing about you to the rest of the staff and our readers).
we too have had our fair share of garbage posted on our site recently, one could also very easily share similar sentiments against your IP.
I’d be very careful if I were you before pointing any more fingers. You’re clearly chewing at the wrong stick.
the Moderator4
the Intellectual Muslim Blog
If it is not you then I suggest you tell whoever else has access to your computer/your IP address to stop their disgusting comments.
Its tough locating one trouble maker in a massive organization, you’d know how it is, masking your IP with a proxy using multiple hosts and a degenerative server assigned with multiple RSI’s
the Moderator4
the Intellectual Muslim Blog
you’ve clearly got a lot of trust issues yossarian:
re-’If it is not you then I suggest’ – As I’ve said in the last comment, its not me, so to hell with your suggestions.
Abu Yusuf. – If you’re looking for a new username how about “Gimp Boy”? I think it might suit you.
I feel sorry for you secularist pseudo-intellectuals, your every posting and comment exposes your relinquishment of the tenents of this faith, it would be an idea for you to rename this site Munafiqoon: Heresy is another word for those who mock and jest the directives of Allah & His Messenger. Do not fear, you will be humiliated in this life and the eternal Life to come, unless you sincerely repent…
A dear friend recently visited Turkey and recounted his bitter sweet experience at watching locals drinking alcohol and wearing skimpy dresses in the forcourts of the magnificent Blue Mosque, their complete ignorance of faith and neglect of prayer and the call to virtue (adhaan) that reverberates across Istanbul at every prescribed time. A legacy no doubt of one of your heroes and poster boys, Kemal ‘the accurrsed’ Attaturk, the damned one who died of cirrosis of the liver due to a lifetime of haram alcohol consumption, a man who tried like you to rid this honourable nation of the Islamic heritage and belief that made them victorious and powerful. An anecdote of his lust, material and life besotted, Godlessness can be found at Wikipedia:
Hungarian-American actress and socialite Zsa Zsa Gabor in her autobiography wrote that the fifty year old statesman and she had shared a brief romance together in 1937, one year before his death, where he had taken her virginity. [102]
“ He dazzled me with his sexual prowess and seduced me with his perversion. Atatürk was very wicked. He knew exactly how to please a young girl. On looking back, I think he probably knew how to please every woman, because he was a professional lover, a god and a king.[103] „ —Zsa Zsa Gabor
However, political and wartime foe, British Prime Minister David Lloyd George wrote in 1919 of a meeting with “Mustapha Kemal, a man who I understand has grown tired of affairs with women and has lately taken up unnatural intercourse”. [104]
Alhamdulilah on a brighter note, my friend said the instance of Hijab is on the increase, more people are beginning to appreciate and reclaim the treasure of spirituality, Emaan and servitude to the Almighty, the Soverign, the Legislator, which is the purpose of the existance of a Believer, a treasure which the cursed one was unable to exterminate, as it will forever burn low and bright long after the demise of such traitors. As there are hundreds of reminders in such great cities of the manner and inspiration under which Islam reached their shores, with over 3000 beautiful Masajid a brief visit to the renowned Topkapi palace the seat of the Ottoman Empire is adorned with inscription after inscription of Quranic Ayah’s, hadith and supplications to the Owner of all Majesty, with hundreds of Prophetic artefacts and national items all holding some religous motif or mention. And you charlatons advocate that the Deen of Islam had no system, no structure, no law, no equitable governance…shame on you liars.
Thanks for that Ataturk – very interesting to read a different person’s point of view. I was particularly interested in this line:
“As there are hundreds of reminders in such great cities of the manner and inspiration under which Islam reached their shores.”
My history’s a little rusty, old boy… Could you remind me how “Islam reached the shores” of Istanbul?
Munafiq Dilettante, pleasure to make your Islamophobic acquaintance. Islam arrived at the shores of Istanbul as per the Prophecy of the Final and Beloved Messenger of Allah (swt), who had stated that a great people from amongst His Ummah would conquer Constantinople, with the Grace of the Almighty this was achieved by Sultan Muhammed II in 1453 AD, an episode that is still proudly depicted in many of the libraries, souvenir shops and malls of the city. No doubt by your liking, this was a bit of an ‘Islamist’ Prophecy of our Beloved, hey but you connivers can’t change history now can you…
Istanbul is indeed a lovely city with many great Mosques. The food is great too.
Ataturk, I’m still trying to understand what the point of your comment is, if there is one at all.
Its OK Dawood, your nonreligous and temporal infested mind is unlikely to understand, rad some Qur’an my friend and read the history of the great Sahbah and the Seerah of the Prophet, if at all you know what that is, then God Willing you may awaken from your earthly slumber.
ataturk, don’t worry, these guys are going to get their due, payback’s gonna shake them silly, one day someone may just walk into their offices such destructive force and let things rip, i’d like to see these cartoons defend themselves with their eloquent speech then – they’re all muppets of the Kuffar, All talk and no balls!
I’m dreadfully sorry Ataturk but you seem to have fundamentally misunderstood my question.
I asked “how” Islam reached the shores of Istanbul – not “who predicted it?” or “it is commentorated in tourist shops?”
Care to take another crack at answering, old man?
Its OK Dawood, your nonreligous and temporal infested mind is unlikely to understand, rad some Qur’an my friend and read the history of the great Sahbah and the Seerah of the Prophet,
I have read the Qur’an and the “history of the great Sahbah” (sic) but what has that got to do with the fact that you’ve got nothing of any import to say in relation to the issue of the Anwar al-Awlaki talk at the K & C Council. You’re just here to blow smoke up your own backside.
what would the dialetics and contemporaries of the modern world know about Islamic History, with their head buried in a pit of stiatistical gobbledigook and parched documents, being qualified in history doesnt neccesarily give one the insight into Islam nor does it give your scholarly status, being fluent with history is being fluent with heresy of the past, and that person has no fluid knowledge about anything at all. just forms conclusions based on murmurs in history and what Allah has caused him to trip up on and stumble upon, it is not a miraculous find but a befitting and continuously befitting humiliation.
dawood, is that your real name or do you prefer ‘david’ instead, well, david it is then: you fail to understand that it is your & your colleagues constant self conjured deviances that have led ataturk to display his feelings
what we need here is Abdur Rahman to rip you all too
what we need here is Abdur Rahman to rip you all too
He’s very good at blathering on and on and avoiding difficult questions isn’t he?
dawood, is that your real name or do you prefer ‘david’ instead, well, david it is then: you fail to understand that it is your & your colleagues constant self conjured deviances that have led ataturk to display his feelings
abu yusuf, is that your real name or do you prefer ‘joe’s dad’ instead? Well, joe’s dad it is then. Your fellow traveller, “ataturk” seems to avoid addressing the post with the insinuation that he thinks he’s a fine muslim for defending terrorism apologists like the pseudo-scholar Anwar al-Awlaki. We call people like him tossers around here. What do you say?
he’s also very good at issuing death threats that you take so seriously that you try and track him half way round the world, cos you and your mates are crappin your pants that you leave for home one night and lo and behold Abdur Rahman appears before you weilding his sword with the blade hanging directly above your twig of a knob!
would sound like fun for david – a new experience for him since he didnt get circumcised as a baby
Abu Yusuf/Ataturk.
Why do you two jokers feel that you need to answer our questions in cod-17th century English as if you were some sort of fossilised country parson who has been magically transported into the 21st interweb?
Answers please, by pigeon, forthsooth.
Dil.
Anwar Al-Awlaki is more of a Muslim thatn you guys will ever live up to being
we can’t all believe we’re living in disneyland like you
It is quite true though – you profess to being muslims but in all your articles, you’ve single handedly sold Allah and his Messenger, vanquished them from your hearts for a meagre sum of PVE Money, shame on you all!!
tell me, when you go out to pray salaah, or even jumuah salaah, and you leave work for 30 mins, do you slyly claim that back on the expenses form as ‘working to blend in with extremists’
and Dilettante, you seriously dont need us to remind you that it is your language that you’re being critical of, the language of the kuffar!
I’d gladly speak in arabic but then that would be unfair on your tiny intellect!
gonna make sure the IM Blog hears about all your little deeds on this site, sooner or later you guys are going to be wasted silly and your readership is going to spit you out ‘like paan on the pavement’
Anwar Al-Awlaki is more of a Muslim thatn you guys will ever live up to being
If you like your Muslims double-talking, hate-inciting cowards of the least common denominator then that’s an ideal I’d rather not live up to, thanks very much. You’re welcome to choose your Muslim heroes, however, as long as they’re not spreading their hate in public spaces in Britain. Fly to Yemen and see him there!
Fadhal, ya kalb.
Great intellectual conversation in progress here, too complex and deep for me to interject so carry on guys.
Why on earth should any Muslim aspire to be like Anwar al-Awlaki – a guy who believes that it’s alright for Muslims to blow up other Muslims???
(Although of course Awlaki has hasn’t even got the guts to take part in the jihad himself so instead he just plays cyber-warriors from his computer – encouraging others to go and do what he hasn’t got the courage to do himself. Pathetic. ).
why fly to yemen when we can get him video linked right here, with the mioney that you idiots are paying as tax payers =)
Ghayra Anta Majnoon!
Al-Qanaas Al-Masri – one day, when you’ve wwashed your hands of this secular rhetoric, I wish you to step out on to the afghan plains with a weapon and experience first hand what it feels like to be part of a jihaad, until then keep your trap shut cos you dont know what your talkin about!
Good point Abu Yusuf about the video-link. And Yemen is SO dangerous as well . You wannabe-jihadists might even run into some real jihadists there. Much better to stay at home in the UK (sorry, that instead of UK I meant “corrupt, stinking kuffarocracy”) jerking off to pictures of Abu Musab in front of your computer.
why fly to yemen when we can get him video linked right here, with the mioney that you idiots are paying as tax payers =)
Well at least we pay tax.
But seriously, you’re free to download the Islamist pornography that al-Awlaki peddles. This is a free country after all. But when it comes to public spaces, then we tax payers have the right to say “fuck off”.
Abu Yusuf -
A person who speaks so lightly of jihad clearly knows little of its burden.
Al-Masri.
abu yusuf,
You have made a number of posts using my name. Either one of the following must be true:
1. We both have a son called Yusuf
2. You chose a random pseudonym which happened to be abu yusuf
3. You read my posts and then decided to copy my name due a severe lack of imagination or self-confidence, or both.
Either way, I would appreciate it if you could stop using my name to post comments in order to avoid future confusion. I still have a few things to say to the Islamists who frequent these comments pages, and it would would make the thread quite difficult to follow if we use the same name.
Thank you.
Yossarian – this is the beginning of what exactly? The beginning of an ill-judged attempt to undermine and tarnish a much needed organisation – which campaigns for tortured and brutalised individuals? I continue to be dismayed by the contents of this blog, and the attempts to criticise organisations and individuals in the Muslim community who are doing valuable work.
Cageprisoners is a humble, yet highly effective initiative to campaign for Muslim prisoners who have been treated unjustly and who have been tortured. Even on a hypothetical note – if the prisoners were guilty of any kind of deviance, they still have the right to a fair trial and freedom from torture. Torture, while being one of the most evil crimes, does not produce sound evidence and yet the Bush administration pushed the argument regarding whether torture if ever is acceptable, and uses it regularly to extract information from prisoners.
I truly believe that whatever one’s political views, we can all agree that torture is unacceptable, and collectively protest against it. The prisoners at Guantanamo Bay were and are tortured which is why there is a need for Cageprisoners because torture is simply wrong.
Yossarian – I would invite you to have more empathy for the suffering of Muslims. Have you read Moazzem Begg’s book? That book made me physically sick for a few days regarding his nightmarish treatment – I would not wish the treatment of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay and Bagram on anyone. Spittoon professes to speak up for human rights – what about the human rights of people like Aafiya Siddiqui? Please look up her case and then decide whether you would support Cageprisoners.
I recognise that only Allah truly knows the misconduct of individuals and the soundness of their heart. However, my rational analysis of Guantanamo Bay is that if the inmates were such hardened criminals, why were most of them eventually released? Take the case of the innocent Uighur Muslims in Guantanamo – Turkic Chinese Muslims. The truth is that they were used as a political pawn by the Chinese government to justify their ill-treatment of Muslims in China.
Cageprisoners has wide support beyond Muslims which includes the playwright Victoria Brittain and Clive Stafford Smith of Reprieve. Omar Khadr, a Canadian Muslim who was captured as a minor at 15 has been supported by native Canadians, including a group of young Canadians as young as 12.
Cageprisoners supports and humanises Muslim prisoners who would otherwise have been forgotten. History has taught us time and time again, that innocent people are caught up in governments’ reckless and ill-judged pursuits…Only this time, it is the Muslims who are on the receiving end.
Ghazal, I am 100% against torture and I am familiar with the cases that you highlighted. That is why I support Amnesty International and their important human rights work. If Cageprisoners are so keen on human rights, though, why do they promote a speaker like Awlaki who believes that al-Shabab (who torture innocent Somalis on a daily basis) deserve support and that it is fine to kill innocent Israeli women and children? What kind of “human rights organisation” invites a man like that to speak at their fundraisers? Certainly not one I can support.
that sounds like a threat of violence to me. i’d like to see you find the “offices” if only to see you kicked onto the payment by our one-legged security guard abdelmalik.
b’shalom
bananabrain
Your absolutely right Ghazal – will the Caged Prisoners also be dealing with the Iranian protesters who have been locked up and sodomised in Iran as well as the political prisoners languishing in the jails of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Tunisia etc ?
Wow what fantastic comments. From all this I have learnt………..Jack all! Apart from Attaturk loved shagging women.
I am a huge fan/supporter of Awlaki and have listened to a lot of his lectures. What can I say, guys quality. However people on this site believe otherwise. I was hoping to get an insight as to why he is dangerous person and should be banned etc…… But as always nuffink at all…apart from the odd slogans he believes in killing innocent people…….which I think is bukwaas and totaly out of context…
I swear Im sooooooo Glad I left the hizb and also the Quilliam boys for that matter (wasnt part of Quilliam but stuck with them and supported them for a while)….. I can think clearly now! I actualy enjoying go to the mosque now without having a hidden agenda progrmmed inside me!
I don’t think I will be regularly visiting blog sites……..its too depressing and keeps people away from the Love of Allah and our beloved prophet Rasoolallah(saw).
Mugambo!
For more info on Awlaki please see this story I wrote earlier.
Mugambo:
But as always nuffink at all…apart from the odd slogans he believes in killing innocent people…….which I think is bukwaas and totaly out of context…
In what context is it appropriate to advocate killing innocent people? Do let us know.
It is not just Ataturk that likes shagging women but Awlaki himself was caught curb crawling twice in the US. Maybe he was looking to take them as prisoners of war!
That’s right, the eminent scholar and beloved of British Islamists, Anwar al-Awlaki was twice *arrested* for soliciting hookers in San Diego in 2006 and 2007.
Don’t tell me…it’s Shariah-legimitate for jihadist scholars to fuck prostitutes while in the Dar al-Harb.
dawood
Can you find anything more reliable that than that US News article to back this up? (That’s a bit like citing Hello magazine to back up an argument).
Yossarin,
Thanks for the link lad. Shall give it a read…..well already breifly skimmed through……yeh dont look good…..for awlaki that is……shall read it properly thoe with fine tooth comb…….
hahaha, top article on Awlaki as a pimp daddy. LOL! sounds all a bit ‘goldilocks and three bears to me’ . Can’t exactly trust it and use it as gospel……so no point trying to come to your own conclusions or implying anything….. I remember once giving directions to some whore and then getting pulled over by the boys in blue!!! please DONT ASK!! long long story…
Ciao
It seems al-Awlaki is quite predisposed to consorting with prostitutes:
“transporting prostitutes across state lines”!? The man’s pimping for jihad!
It’s amazing when Islamists are prepared to believe in any old bizarre conspiracy theory from any unknown source but when it comes their own they want to apply rigourous scientific methods of scrutiny.
Ibn Khaldun,
To quote Michael Jackson:
“If they say Why? Why? – Tell ‘em that its human nature”
Does Caged Prisoners currently campaign for the Iranians currently being held for protesting the recently stolen election in Iran?
Nope its just prisoners of the West’s ‘war on terror’ I’m afraid.