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	<title>Comments on: How about jeans and a top?</title>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/2099#comment-10577</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One point of order, the two female Police (Debs Leonard and Pickering) appear to be Sergeants and not Constables as Houriya suggests.  I wonder if they would submit to not being permitted to command male Constables for a day.

Even if they would, the idea that they&#039;ve gained any insight into how [some] Muslim women feel when venturing onto the street wearing what their [confessional of] religion dictates would be laughable if it weren&#039;t so pathetic.  At the end of the day, they were free to disrobe and return to a [more or less] equal status in mainstream British society, and authority undreamt of by those SE Asian women they merrily patronized by this visit to a religious theme-park.

There&#039;s no need for me to explain in which neck of the woods the burqa is a culturally-dictated more.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7640263.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is a local woman who did not wear a burqa and fought to ensure other women were not subjected to repression, and was assoassinated for her troubles.  She was a Police officer as well; but, in my opinion, of far more smeddum than the Sgts Pickering and Leonard or PCSO Helen Turner.

In shameless self-publicity, I discussed &lt;a href=&quot;http://southernmuslimah.wordpress.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;another Muslim woman&lt;/a&gt; (who declines to let Muslim men chose which parts of  Western culture pleased *them*, whilst requiring Muslim women to adhere to those parts of Islamic mandates which pleased *them*) &lt;a href=&quot;http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/hijab-or-not-to-hijab/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/religious-tourism/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; I doffed my snazzy felt fedora or Houriya, and touched upon the appearance of the burqa across the border from South Yorkshire in Lancashire.  There&#039;s a photograph of all three women: Turner is wearing a hijab, with Leonard and Pickering in burqas from left to right (although it may be right to left, I can&#039;t tell).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One point of order, the two female Police (Debs Leonard and Pickering) appear to be Sergeants and not Constables as Houriya suggests.  I wonder if they would submit to not being permitted to command male Constables for a day.</p>
<p>Even if they would, the idea that they&#8217;ve gained any insight into how [some] Muslim women feel when venturing onto the street wearing what their [confessional of] religion dictates would be laughable if it weren&#8217;t so pathetic.  At the end of the day, they were free to disrobe and return to a [more or less] equal status in mainstream British society, and authority undreamt of by those SE Asian women they merrily patronized by this visit to a religious theme-park.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no need for me to explain in which neck of the woods the burqa is a culturally-dictated more.  <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7640263.stm" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is a local woman who did not wear a burqa and fought to ensure other women were not subjected to repression, and was assoassinated for her troubles.  She was a Police officer as well; but, in my opinion, of far more smeddum than the Sgts Pickering and Leonard or PCSO Helen Turner.</p>
<p>In shameless self-publicity, I discussed <a href="http://southernmuslimah.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">another Muslim woman</a> (who declines to let Muslim men chose which parts of  Western culture pleased *them*, whilst requiring Muslim women to adhere to those parts of Islamic mandates which pleased *them*) <a href="http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2009/07/28/hijab-or-not-to-hijab/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://efrafandays.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/religious-tourism/" rel="nofollow">Here</a> I doffed my snazzy felt fedora or Houriya, and touched upon the appearance of the burqa across the border from South Yorkshire in Lancashire.  There&#8217;s a photograph of all three women: Turner is wearing a hijab, with Leonard and Pickering in burqas from left to right (although it may be right to left, I can&#8217;t tell).</p>
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		<title>By: Houriya</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/2099#comment-10566</link>
		<dc:creator>Houriya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is absurd as well as a problem - and you are right, they won&#039;t just listen to me - one individual. That&#039;s why we need more people, imam, other Muslim women, whoever else to point out the insult, absurdity, and politics of Islamists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is absurd as well as a problem &#8211; and you are right, they won&#8217;t just listen to me &#8211; one individual. That&#8217;s why we need more people, imam, other Muslim women, whoever else to point out the insult, absurdity, and politics of Islamists.</p>
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		<title>By: qidniz</title>
		<link>http://www.spittoon.org/archives/2099#comment-10557</link>
		<dc:creator>qidniz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Police and community officers in Yorkshire, as almost certainly  elsewhere, have by now fully internalized the Islamist message that a woman&#039;s proper place is  under a tent.  Your evident disagreement as a private individual, even if you are Muslim, is quite irrelevant.  

Your best shot is to get  someone who can speak with authority on doctrinal issues in Islam -- an &quot;imam type&quot; -- to counter the Islamist message.  Until then, it really isn&#039;t absurd., and certainly multiculti oh so peecee public functionaries shouldn&#039;t be taken to task for what they have been led to think must be in best interests of , um, &quot;community outreach&quot;.

Perhaps the cleric at the nearest mosque will oblige...  No?  Then not only is this not absurd, it&#039;s a problem.
 
 (Btw, I agree with you, but I&#039;m a private individual too; and as for mere opinions, it&#039;s said that they&#039;re like assholes: everybody has  one.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Police and community officers in Yorkshire, as almost certainly  elsewhere, have by now fully internalized the Islamist message that a woman&#8217;s proper place is  under a tent.  Your evident disagreement as a private individual, even if you are Muslim, is quite irrelevant.  </p>
<p>Your best shot is to get  someone who can speak with authority on doctrinal issues in Islam &#8212; an &#8220;imam type&#8221; &#8212; to counter the Islamist message.  Until then, it really isn&#8217;t absurd., and certainly multiculti oh so peecee public functionaries shouldn&#8217;t be taken to task for what they have been led to think must be in best interests of , um, &#8220;community outreach&#8221;.</p>
<p>Perhaps the cleric at the nearest mosque will oblige&#8230;  No?  Then not only is this not absurd, it&#8217;s a problem.</p>
<p> (Btw, I agree with you, but I&#8217;m a private individual too; and as for mere opinions, it&#8217;s said that they&#8217;re like assholes: everybody has  one.)</p>
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