A few days ago I blogged about an event being advertised for Saturday night. The new Hounslow Muslim Forum was advertising an event which would bring together (at a Hounslow comprehensive) Daud Abdullah, Hizb ut-Tahrir and the Metropolitan Police. There have since been a few developments.
Council leader Peter Thompson this week wrote to the secondary school in Lampton Avenue urging staff to cancel the booking ‘before it is too late’.
“We have real concerns that the lack of balanced debate could inflame perceived grievances and lead to a breakdown in community cohesion,” he said. “In truth the only purpose of the event appears to be an attempt to increase fear and mistrust amongst Muslims in the UK and in our borough.
“The use of publicly-owned premises such as your school by groups holding extreme religious, ideological or political views, who aim to create or exploit grievances and community tensions to the detriment of the whole community, should not be permitted.”
Inspector Alan Murphy, of Hounslow Police, was also lined up to talk but has pulled out due to concerns about the event.
This is not just a victory for common sense. It is also a resounding defeat for Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Although the original poster for the event ‘Putting Contest 2 in Context’ listed Hizb ut-Tahrir as members of the forum, Mr Chaudhry added that the controversial group had since been expelled.
Chalk this up as yet another demonstration of Hizb ut-Tahrir’s demise. Even Hounslow Muslim Forum, who considered Daud Abdullah a moderate speaker, want nothing to do with them. How embarassing.
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Another nail in the HT coffin. Event after event is being cancelled and member after member is leaving.
I think Daud should be allowed to speak though, although he speaks a load of nonsense most of the time.
I agree
HT’s new tactic of blending in with community organisations is backfiring on them. Even local community groups have realised that HT are a liability and should be avoided at all costs.
I feel sorry for HT, their new moderate image thing is not working.
What a shame
Well done Council leader Peter Thompson, Inspector Alan Murphy of Hounslow Police and of course Lampton School for seeing sense.
Ah, well Lampton school have not yet cancelled the event so, at present, it looks like Daud Abdullah will still speak there.
That’s OK, he only wants British ships attacked when sailing “Muslim waters”.
It is really embarrassing to see how Hizb-ut-Tahrir being taken by the people, muslim and non-muslim both. It resembles very much the way Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) was taken in the beginning before they started adapting him as their saviour and leader in ever aspect of life.
There is a prophesy which claims that Khilafah will be restored in the similar way prophet reinstated it. The very first resemblance of this is the resistance by his own people. Today so called muslims are not in support with Hizb-ut-Tahrir while so many are there who can’t support despite they want to. If we read the life of Prophet (SAWS) we shall see this clearly.
And those who are just jumping with joy by looking at the difficulty HAT has at this moment, should look upon the life of Jesus, Moses, David, Issac (peace be upon all of them) and many others. They all had difficulties in their lives but finally they were accepted and taken whole heartedly for their continuous perseverance and steadfastness.
This way also God almighty separates the hypocrites from true believers. People with black heart but white face get separated from those who have pious from outside as well as inside. And these are the people who get success.
I just request to all those who think Hizb-ut-Tahrir is a party of wrong doers to pray for the success of the right doers. Please pray that THE ONE WHO IS ONE THE RIGHT PATH SHOULD EMERGE AS WINNER.
Sooner or later picture will be clear to us.
Truth is never defeated and lies always tries to spread false propaganda and strangle the truth but yet, it is Truth which emerges as winner in every time, every era and every land.
I pray the Allah almighty, and urge Him to give the righteous people victory, no matter which side they are.
No, it really doesn’t. Unless you’re suggesting that the worst thing faced by Muhammad was being thrown out of Hounslow Muslim Forum?
Abdullah – I find drawing parallels between the great Prophet Muhammad and a disgusting fascist hate group like HT to be grossly offensive. HT has single handed given a bad name to Islam and Muslim throughout the UK and they continue to defame the great religion. Shame on you Khwarijites.
“Abu Wanabe Arab”
This name single handedly demonstrates the anti-Arab racism of Faisal and the spittoon crew (assuming its not just Faisal under different names)
huh?
Another poster’s comment demonstrates my “anti-Arab racism”?
It’s a little early to be drinking, isn’t it troll?
Hark! Oh Abdullah, for you are ignorant!
Our beloved Rasul alayhi Salam warned us of Khawarij like HT and their Islamist friends who wished to use our Islamic faith to rebel by force against rulers they didn’t like simply to suit their own manipulations of Islam. Hark! For he alayhi salat al-salam warned us that you would pray better than us, they would recite better than our recitation, indeed they would ‘look’ more religious than us, but that you would be filthy scum of who he, in his divinely inspired wisdom said:
“Uqtuluuhum hayth ma wajadtumuuhum”
Kill them wherever you find them…
It is narrated that RasulAllah (saw) said: “There will appear from this man’s progeny people who one of you would belittle his own prayer when compared with theirs, and his fasting compared to theirs. (But) they will pass through the religion just as an arrow might pass through a target.” (Bukhari; Muslim)
RasulAllah (saw) also said: “Indeed there will be a people amongst you who will feign in worshipping Allah until the people become amazed with them and they become amazed with themselves. They will shoot through the religion just as the arrow shoots through the game.” (Abu Ya’la, musnad with sahih sanad.)
So spare us their “piety”… I will mock their petty “piety” and quoting of ayat just as my Prophet alayhi Salam has commanded me to do, because their fake piety befogs not my mind, and softens not my heart to their filthy intentions and their ignoble aims! They are scum, yes, hark oh HT and al-qaeda Jihadi filth, you are scum who deserve to be chased and hounded till the earth is purified from your putrid smell!
Imam Ajurri said: “It is not permissible for the one who sees the uprising of a khariji who has revolted against the leader, whether he is just or oppressive, so this person has revolted and gathered a group behind him has pulled out his sword and has made lawful the killing of Muslims it is not fitting for the one who sees, he becomes deceived by this persons recitation of the Qur’an, the length of his standing in the prayer, nor his constant fasting, nor his good and excellent words in knowledge when it is clear to him that this persons way and methodology is that of the Khawarij.” (ash-Shariah 28)
So we are not fooled by their SubhanAllahs and their MashaAllahs and their segregated rooms (when in reality all they ever dream about is enslaving “kuffar” women and taking them as concubines like their filthy Jihadi bretherin did in Algeria!)!
Al-Bukhaaree reported in his Saheeh (6930), Muslim in his Saheeh (1066), Ahmad in his Musnad (1/113), Ibn Abee ‘Aasim in his As-Sunnah (914) and ‘Abdullaah bin al-Imaam Ahmad in his As-Sunnah (1487): From ‘Alee (radyAllaahu ‘anhu) who said: “I heard Allaah’s Messenger (sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) say: ‘Towards the last days, a people will emerge who will be young in age and have foolish ideas. They will speak with the best speech of the creatures. Their Eemaan will not go past their throats. So wherever you encounter them, kill them, for indeed there will be a reward for the one who kills them on the Day of Judgement.’”
You see!! Islamists and HT’ers are all young (as the hadith said!), they have foolish ideas, they all seem to be very eloquent in their speech, as the hadith said, and they have no real Eemaan, they are scum and if they kill innocents in pursuit of their Utopian Caliphate misnomer, like they did in Algeria, like JI did in Bangladesh, and like HT promises to do when it gets its Caliphate, then they deserve to be killed whenever they try and revolt! If HT try their violent and extremist military coup in any popular Muslim society, our Prophet alayhi salam said that we should find them and kill them and go to Jannah for it as our Ulema have instructed us based upon our noble Prophets teachings! But if they merely talk, we will expose their filthy nifaq and their dubious deen till the world detests them like we do!
He also said they would be soft with disbelievers and harsh with believers. As the Prophet (sallAllaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) said: “And they will kill the People of Islaam, while leaving alone the people of Awthaan (idols).(Part of a long hadeeth reported by Ahmad, Muslim, Al-Bukhaaree and others [Abridged by the translator)
We beleaguered and normal Muslims have seen how they pander and panic to impress disbelievers that they are "non-violent", representative, anti-dictatorships, pro-human rights, yet they then, behind their backs, and to our faces, declare us to be apostates that they will kill in their Animal farm like Utopian Caliphate.
Lo! We have seen how they focus all their energies in fighting the Muslim rulers, ignoring fighting Israeli occupation and all other atrocities because they claim that more important is to cause sedition within Muslim ranks than to build strong countries that can withstand foreign pressure.
And dare not say that they fight not directly, and that they are not Khawarij because they don't raise weapons... nay, they are the wickedest of khawarij, for indeed there are two types, the Khawarij al-thawriyyah ('the revolutionaries' - who actually fight) and the khawarij al-qa'diyya ('the sitters' - who sit and stir sedition):
“The Qa’diyyah (the sitters) are those who incite the people, stir up hatred within the hearts against the rulers and issue fatawa making lawful what Allah has declared unlawful in the name of changing the evil (munkar). And they are the wickedest of the Khawarij.” (Sharr Qatlaa, 20) Abdullah ibn Muhammad ad-Daif (ra) said: “The Qadiyyah are the wickedest of the Khawarij.” (Abu Dawud, Masailu Imam Ahmad, 271)
Ibn Hajar said: “The Khawarij of al-Qadiyyah (sitters) did not hold the view of waging war. Rather, they opposed the rulers in accordance to their strength (ie: like the HT devious concept of nusra - seeking army support) they called to their opinion and along with that they beautified revolt and held it to be good.” (at-Tadheed 8/114) He also said: “The Qa’diyyah: Those who beautify revolt against the rulers yet do not actually do it themselves.” (Hadyu’s-Saree, 459)
“And the Qadiyyah are, in most cases, more dangerous than the Khawarij themselves. Since, speech, inciting hatred within the hearts and provoking the common-folks against the rulers has the most profound effect upon the souls; especially when it comes from a man who is an eloquent speaker who dupes the people with his tongue and disguises it with the Sunnah.” (al-Ajwibatu’l-Mufidah, 202)
In working to destabilize Muslim countries they do nothing but act as agents for the enemies of Islam. What makes their treachery worse is that they claim to speak in the name of Islam, just like the filthy khawarij! Their ancestors used the very same slogan as them: la hukma illa lillah! No rule but for God, and they killed Imam Ali:
And they are called al-Muhakkimah due to their objection to tahkim (arbitrary/judgment), and their statement ‘There is no judgment except for Allah.” (al-Ashari, Maqalatu’l-Islamiyya, 207)
They are scum of who ibn al-Qayyim said:
"They have textual evidences, which they fall short of in understanding
So they have been given shortness in knowledge." (Nooniyyah of Ibn Al-Qayyim pg. 97)
We will not rest till their filth has been removed from this Earth, they and their terrorists scum Jihadist friends that they defend so fiercely (see their website statements in favour of the satanic Taliban)!
(The hypocrites) ..Are spiteful against Muslims for no other reason than that Allah (swt) and His Messenger (pbuh) have enriched them through His bounty! So, if they repent, it will be to their own good. But if they turn away, Allah (swt) will sternly punish them in this world and in the Hereafter. None in the world will be able to protect or help them. [Al-Qur'an 9:74]
Salam upon he who follows any guidance and death to the terrorist scum (Al-Qaeda/khawarij al-thawriyya) and shame and misery to their sympathisers (HT and Islamists/Khawarij al-Qa’daiyya).
Well I suppose Anti-Arab racism is no worse than the anti-Pakistani racism of HT and other middle eastern Islamists which your type worship.
But the name is not an attack on Arabs or any other race rather I am mocking the numerous British Pakistani/Bengali’s who aspire to be Arabs, such is their low self esteem.